I'm not cooperating at all. They gave me two pieces at one time. This might have to be like an Eve later thing. I do have a skirt on. We would have taken you in anything, Marcia. It's been a day or two. It has been kind of a... Jason's been gone for two weeks, so... It's a little bit of a struggle bus. Although Lucas drives now. He can only drive to Zach. But he's not actually super helpful because he has basketball every day at the school. Well, I would have given in had Lucas not gotten two tickets his first week of driving. So if he gets another ticket now, I think he loses his license. Until the six month period . Yeah, he was like, I think it's over now. And I was like, oh, friends, it is not over. Have you heard from him? Oh, here he is. Yay. So don't sit down. Don't sit down. Oh my god. Dude, I was almost going to take over your job. She was lucky you surfed here. She wore a skirt hoping she could. Go ahead. I am the pro tem, so I was ready to step in. Welcome, everyone. Sorry I'm a few minutes late. I had to do my other job. I apologize. Let's call this study session to order. Salt Lake County Convention and Tourism Assessment Area. And that's for you guys. Who's up? That's up? That is us over here. I'm Tyson Lippert. I'm the Chief Sales Officer at Visit Salt Lake. We have Bart Blaisdell, who's the Chief Financial Officer. Clay Partain is the executive director and chief sports officer at Visit Salt Lake. And then we have a couple of our hoteliers, local hoteliers. Mary Birch, who runs the Hyatt House in Sandy, and Chris King. And we come to give an update on the convention tourism assessment area. We appreciated your support as we went through that process. We don't come up for another vote for another couple of years, but we did want to make sure that you guys were kept in the loop as to what was going on and to make sure that you feel comfortable with how things are going. So just a quick overview. The visitor economy and hospitality economy is a $5.8 billion industry in the county. It supports 47,000 jobs and offsets taxes for household relief by $1,700 per household. So it's an important sector. The South Valley is growing in our hospitality revenues. and how important it is to us here in the South Valley. 22% of all spending in Draper does come from outside the area on all things like food and beverage and entertainment and retail things. We have seven hotels in Draper, that's close to 700 rooms. More rooms on the horizon potentially as you probably have heard with the Point of the Mountain project. So we expect that to grow and we're excited for what's coming. We wanted to give you just an overview. Remember, for those who weren't here, a convention tourism assessment area was an assessment that was placed upon hoteliers, a 2% assessment on hotel room revenue that was collected and is spent by the hotels for the hotels to increase hotel room revenue. And so Mary and Chris are on the committee. They're the voting members on the committee. So they're the ones that get to decide how the money is spent. We'll talk about how some of those things were spent this past couple of years. Just a quick overview, the Convention Tourism Assessment Area is broken into three areas. We have a district downtown, a West Valley district, and then a South Valley district. As you can see on our voting members, we have Jennifer, George, Mary, and Chris who are with us. We do have some ex-officio members including Fred, and Tasha was with us for a long time. And Jay and Mary Zoltanski also sit on that committee. and they're the ones that consider the different ways that the money could be spent. This is an overview for the CTA in general. This year, the budget is $8.3 million that was collected or will be collected. And it's broken down into different buckets, including a district-wide development, which is more of marketing campaigns and getting the word out about Salt Lake and our visitor economy. We also have dedicated community sales development buckets, which are the things that the South Valley gets to control of their funds there and how it's spent, and a couple of other buckets. So 8.3 million. We did a lot of campaigns. One of the things that we did this year was the, or this past year, was the Net Cracker Initiative. You guys hosted one here right in front of City Hall. It was great. It definitely engaged people and we saw a lot of uptake that way. And we intend to do another winter promotion campaign as well. A couple of things just to show you, and Clay will talk a little bit about some of the specific events, but the funds that were spent this past year, we were able to bring in 22 events to the South District. That would bring in 243,000 attendees, 169,000 roommates. and have a $107 million economic impact for those events. So really successful places. And one of the reasons why the South District works really well is we have the assets wherein the hotel community can cooperate to bring events to the Mountain America Expo Center or to the Real Stadium. There's going to be more assets brought in to the South District that will be able to continue to bring different things. So for example, the aquariums adding meeting space that will allow us to bring in new opportunities to the South Valley. So we're excited about the future for the South District. How that translates to actual hotel revenue. This is a lot of numbers, and I think that the most important thing for you to note is you can see that most of the destinations we track are losing revenue, hotel revenue. So far this year, in addition to last year having great revenue growth, we're still continuing to grow this year. The South Valley's up 1.3% in its revenue. Rev Park stands for Revenue for Available Room, if that helps you. And so you're seeing good growth outside of Salt Lake. The California hotels are seeing growth this year. But outside of those places, you're not seeing any growth anywhere else. Everybody else is losing. We're excited. It's a success story for us in the revenues we're seeing here. We've used the campaign studies funds to run leisure campaigns. This is a campaign. An example of a campaign we ran on Expedia. It generated $740,000 worth of hotel revenue, close to 5,000 roommates. Great impressions and great exposure to Salt Lake County. We're excited about that one. And Clay, if you want to talk a little bit about some of your specific events here. Yeah, yeah. We do chase a lot of regional, national, even international level sporting events and particular events that have a high frequency of bringing in visitation. So youth and amateur are often what we target. So youth events, you always have mom, dad, brother, sister. I mean, many, many of you here probably have a youth that plays some sports and you probably had to travel for that. So it really enables us to bring in a lot of people. And we use the Mountain America Expo Center a lot for these types of things. And this is one good example, the Development Program National Championships. This is a gymnastics event. Created over 6,500 room nights during the period they were here through May 6th through 11th. We saw really great increases in occupancy and rates during that period. 7.1 total economic impact. This was a real boon. All the local shops, the South Town Mall got business out of this. We did the opening celebration over at America First Field just right across from Mountain America Expo. So great example. And then here's just a couple more. Triple Crown Volleyball. We have them on an annual sort of rotation. Then we have the National Horseshoe Pitchers Association. That was a really cool one. Kind of a longer one. It went for two full weeks down at Mountain America Expo. So these, again, examples of things that we try to target. Yes. Yes. And next time, Mayor, you're going to be the person throwing out the first ten questions. Ceremonial for sure. Yeah, we'll have to figure it out, whatever it is. Another thing maybe to note with all the stuff that's happening downtown with the convention center and the entertainment district, it is making some changes and actually going to push things to the South Valley. Clay, we host a large USA Volleyball event downtown each year. It's huge. Because of construction, they're going to split their show and bring half of it to the Mountain America Expo Center, which will be great for the area. So we'll see more of those sorts of things. Over 1,000 teams over the two-week period. Those are quiet events. Yeah, you're going to see. The whistle's just a constant. You go in there, it's just a constant whistle with 40-plus courts going on. Yeah. And we brought Mary and Chris because we just wanted you to know, these are the folks that are actually doing it here in the South Valley. If you guys want to say anything, you can, but I don't know if we want to. I'll just say, you know, we vote on... want to thank you for your support we really appreciate that it's been fun to be able to help throw some money at some of these events that wouldn't normally be able to come because of those extra costs or things and you can see in the numbers what an impact that's done for our area and it's been wonderful for us in the hotels to keep those numbers up because as you saw here by city as we look at by hotels and by our market We're also seeing those same impacts where the CTAA hotels are outperforming the other hotels in the same market and area. So it's been huge. It's been awesome. And we're hoping to gain traction with some other cities that didn't sign on to begin with because it really has been a huge success. Thank you. Any questions from the council or anybody here? How do you know where they go after they've been at their event? Are you using cell tracking? in terms of where they spend. So we do work with Zardica, which is a local company that does track. They do anonymized cell phone tracking and also spend data through credit card spend. However, in terms of economic impact, that's a calculation done by tourism economics. We collect zip codes so we know where they're all coming from. We collect a bunch of data points and we put that into a tourism calculator was in san diego last weekend and my waiter at one of the restaurants we went to had come here last winter to use your ski package yeah and he loved it he was so happy to stay in the hotel he got the bus right back to the slums he said it was awesome and he told all of his friends so it is working yeah yeah perfect perfect yeah great and that's part of what is the exposure that we've been able to get with some of the marketing money that we have in that bucket ex the exposure that we have outside of our area to bring people in has just, I mean, you see it in the numbers. It's been great. So we obviously joined to support our Draper hotels. What are you doing to ensure that these people are staying at our hotels? So that's where we, yeah, yeah. A number of the sporting events are what's called a state-of-play model, so they have to stay in the lodging facilities as outlined by the tournament organizers. So we work with the organizers to make sure we're featuring the correct hotels. There's some of these events we've chased that are big enough where we've approached more than one district. So we just have to be careful and make sure we're advertising that. Yeah. So legislatively speaking, there are two guardrails to this. The money spent has to generate hotel room revenue, and it has to have equitable benefits. So those are the two guardrails for us to be trying and major through every opportunity we have. And it's not always easy because, you know, there are things that are a little bit different, but that's what we strive for. And that's why they have the three hoteliers on there, Jennifer included, because we represent not our own properties, not only our own properties, but 68 other properties around the valley, so that we can make sure that those monies are being spent. Where we're putting the money in, I want to make sure I'm getting that back for my hotel. I don't want that going to South Jordan who didn't participate. I didn't say that. Yeah, that's a hot topic. Thank you again. Yeah, thank you. Appreciate it. Thanks. All right, next. Next, we have Mr. Markle. Where are you, sir? Come up and tell us all about the TRSSD lighting. Do you have one here? No. No? So the TRSSD board made a formal request that City Public Works take over the maintenance, repairs, replacement of all the streetlights in the district. That's roughly 160 streetlights. We currently maintain, repair, and deal with about 1,400 to 1,500 streetlights, so it would be a 10% increase. I'm not sure what the revenue source or funding would look like for that, but before we pursue looking into that, we just wanted to see if it was something that council is willing to entertain. Are they offering any way to help in paying for the maintenance of those? I think right now street lighting is included in their special service tax. Right. So shouldn't we get some of that then? To know what that is, what that amount is, whether it would be enough. And also, just so you guys know, with the plowing, tracking all of that information and then requesting Reimbursement isn't the simplest way to do things. We owned them and went forward with it. The question would be if they pay for the cost of the maintenance, would they be willing to do it as a city? So my concern with this has always been that they have different lights in the rest of the city, and their lights are considerably more expensive and more difficult to maintain. How are we going to manage that? Are we going to? take on a whole different brand of light? Are we going to switch them over to Draper City lights? No, it would be to maintain what they have and replace in kind what they have when they fail. They do have some parts that they're requesting we store, which we talked about two weeks ago. We don't have any room for that. Right, we don't because our standard light is easy to get. There's our custom made special. Right, by the way, I'll add. We changed them all. We did? Yeah, they're fantastic. I don't even need my porch light anymore. My thought process is if we take it, we may need to just follow our standard lighting. And then we may need to continue to pay for it. So we calculate all that. I can't remember what it is. It's from a year ago discussion. But there would have to be some sort of way that we would gather revenue to replace those either all at once or over time or as they broke with the standard light. Are they amenable to switching to standard lights? In the past, they haven't been. I think there's some new board members and stuff, so maybe. Your stipulation to talk further would be they'd have to switch to our standard light. Well, I don't see how we can stop two different kinds of lights, one that are twice the cost, and maybe we won't be able to source. Wouldn't that make sense, though, to replace them? I mean, as they go, replace them. But we've never wanted that. Like, if they're willing to do that, it would look like right now is so we'll get a complaint we read it we contact the board we say hey this is actually yours to fix and then they don't that's not their world they don't know how to do that so then it doesn't happen so then more residents think we're just not doing anything so there's this like frustration with the city and we don't have anything So are three of you at least want to talk further about a way that they cover the cost? We'd end up switching back to our own light system. What is that, Mike? How about staffing-wise, taking this on? It's a 10% increase in your load. If it's the same percentage of, so they went through and re-fixed a lot of them. Now, they didn't fix them perfect. A lot of them started falling apart. But in the last couple of years, that only happened, hasn't happened recently. It was right off the bat. They had four or five. I think if you're going to take it over, you have to have a plan where they're going to pay for the switch over and just start making the switch. Either that or there would have to be some sort of revenue that we go, okay, we've got enough money that we can store these parts and we'll replace them. The district can raise it if they want us to take it over. I guess is that what you guys? I just don't think we can get into the business where we're doing different lighting systems for every neighborhood. I see a lot of problems with that down there. We've been fighting this light thing for a long time. So are all of you willing to keep talking on those terms? They replaced the city lights. They covered the cost of the maintenance repair, including staff time, all of it. Bill them just like we would. It is a safety issue. I mean, there's lights out there that have been out for over a year that are in major intersections. One, it's a finger-pointing thing because their contractor will say, no, it's underground. And that's our responsibility. So then we pay for an underground contractor to come and look at it. We can't do that yet. So we have an electrician come, and they go, no, it's the fuse, and then it goes back and forth, and it doesn't get resolved. And we spend money without getting reimbursed for it, and at no time. Well, our lights are certainly not a problem for safety. Yeah. All right, looks like the majority of you want to do that. All of you? I think it's always going to be a problem until we take it over. I agree. But... It's just a question of are we taking it over on sunburst lights or city lights? And that's where we always get stuck. Okay, our next item is a discussion for our general plan water use and preservation element. Go ahead, sir. Thanks. It seems like every time I come here this year, I say the state's required us to do the same. And so that's what we've been working on. just so we're clear, government overreach only includes when the federal government is overreaching on the states. That definition does not include the state overreaching on the cities. It's not a thing. Sorry, I misspoke. I just wanted to clarify the definition. So in 2022, the state passed one, Senate Bill 110, requires us to adopt a water use and preservation element by the end of the year. We did do some other work on adopting water-wise landscape ordinance ahead of time, so we were actually working on sort of the implementation before the element. So we've been working on the draft element. We have five goals and 15 implementation measures that we just wanted to run past you before we bring it for adoption just to see if there's any concerns or questions that we can clarify before it comes. And then we're looking at planning commission on November 13th and city council on December 2nd for adoption. So I'm just going to paraphrase these if that's okay just to keep moving through this. So Goal one is to strengthen our water conservation efforts through our own city leadership. And the first implementation measure is to explore forming a water conservation team that works along with our existing water conservation coordinator. And that could also include working with WaterPro on their efforts as well to address existing future water conservation. And the second is to look at having a water conservation intern to work on additional water conservation items that they can come up with in working with that water conservation coordinator. So goal two is developing citywide policies that enhance water conservation for existing developments. So implementation one is looking at implementing a time of day watering restriction. So that would restrict outdoor watering between the hours of 10 a.m. and 6 p.m. for both residential and non-residential And then implementation number two is developing water shortage plans. So this would be a plan that would go into effect to protect the public during periods of drought, temporary water shortages, and interruptions. And I think these are two that would come back to the city council that would have more details. to increase public awareness through education. And all of role three, our consultant has indicated that we may be able to seek some grant funding from Jordan Valley Water Conservancy District for these, holding workshops with residents on water conserving skills, and they point out there's some existing programs such as Fix-It that you can fix your sprinklers. The second is providing free water conserving tools in public events. The third implementation measure is developing a beautiful yard program where we can annually award yards or recognize yards that are water wise. So encouraging the community through that. And the fourth is working with Jordan Valley to reach out to business groups and hold workshops water conservation rebates and incentives. The fourth goal is to increase public awareness through sort of our digital tools and our online presence. So the first implementation measure is to look at our existing web pages and consolidating sort of the messages into one water conservation web page. And then the second is to advertise commercial rebate programs and Third goals, implementation measures, sorry, is to sort of have a calendar throughout the year where we can work on messaging, water conservation messages throughout the year. And the fourth is to promote the Eye on Water app, which allows real-time tracking of water use. So people can discover if they have some major water leaks or anything happening that's beyond what they expect. And then the fifth goal is to lead by example. And so that's us, the city, looking at it. any of our park strips, our parks and civic buildings, and our sprinkler systems to reduce turf and bring in more efficient irrigation systems. Those are all the goals and implementation measures, and if anybody has any questions or concerns. I have a question. So the Truth Committee currently hosts the local scapes program through TREAT. Oh, TREAT, sorry. Would any of these implementations be things that you would want them to potentially help out with? I think those president workshops would be something we could work on including that in the measure. We also have our landscape inspector that can also assist in that, too. Well, hasn't the tree commission coordinated those local skate classes and things? Yeah, they've been doing that, so it kind of So Todd, as I watch you lay this out, I went to water school, I think a year or two ago. So they invite elected officials and said, if you get an invite, you should go do it. Water school is very interesting. It's primarily talked about the resources of the Central Utah Project. And then they brought in a guy from the Las Vegas, Clark County Metropolitan Water service. They used to have separate water districts in Clark County and then counties around it. And then Nevada consolidated it all. And this was, this, what you're talking here is exactly what Nevada did. And then Nevada put it in place with the water police. So this looks to me like we're going down that same, that road but trying to start on the voluntary side. In Nevada, if you develop a leak in Clark County, they come to you and they find the leak and they help you fix it. And then if you don't fix it, It's a very steep fine, like $1,500 the next time it's up. They changed all of it. Any new casino has to use mechanical cooling, not evaporative cooling. It's a whole bunch of things. But this guy was just kind of telling us, if you don't do it voluntarily, you'll get forced to do it because the resource is gone. But this, to me, looks like the plan they went down, at least to try and. The goal is to conserve water. So we should get on board and try and do it. happily and nicely. But as I sat in that presentation, I thought, huh, they'll come today. I think we tried to get the softer things working for us. I'd say the watering restriction between two and four is probably the hardest of all of them. But that's the timing. I appreciate it. I think it's on the course with what needs to be done in an air climate like we have to preserve as much water as we can. It's definitely right down that alley. I've got a quick question. So were the goals and implementation strategies, were those statutory or were those that you came up with as a staff? These are things that our consultant has come up with based on their experience, sort of what's in our existing water conservation plan that our water utilities have to do over five years. And just reaching out, discussing with staff and based a little bit on what the statutes are and what has gotten passed in the state with some of the other cities that they've helped. Yeah, they even said in Nevada they had, when they implemented the no turf and some of the hard restrictions, people started building moats around their houses, like swimming pools around their homes. And then they restricted the square footage of swimming pools to 600 square feet. So you can't do that anymore. People were replacing their grass with water and pools. And of course, it evaporates and they, you know, it's pretty interesting. And Nevada's wetter than we are, so that's something to think about. Thanks, Tom. Any questions more? Okay, that takes us to a discussion. I'm assuming that's why there's so many of you here in the room. I didn't think you were all bored and wanted to come to a fun council meeting. So just let me tell you, in this meeting, it's a study session, so we're not making any decisions. We're just here to talk about it, so the council can all be in the room. You're certainly willing to listen, and if you want to, if we If we want to engage it, we can, but primarily it's an opportunity for the council to hear everything and kind of batter it around so you can kind of hear how they're thinking. So that's our process. With that, who's leading out, Todd or Ted? Let's give it to both of us. Yeah, Todd and Todd. Yeah, so as you just requested, we- A descendant of William Draper, I might add. We're looking at this 800 East, 122nd South neighborhood area. This is just an aerial map. When we looked at it as staff, we were talking about that triangular area down 7th East, down 123rd, up along the tracks line. But then we realized we also have this little piece to the north. There's only access through there. So we decided that that probably needed to be included as we studied this. Feel free to chime in. This is just a little bit of the open space and trails. Obviously, we have the trails along the tracks line, and then we have the Marathon wetlands just north of here. Really don't have any connections into that right now, but that could be something we could look at maybe separately. Then we have the existing land use map, and I think this is kind of where most of our discussion that we're kind of looking for some feedback on. As you can see, kind of through the mid block here is where that kind of commercial land use designation stops as we come from 7th East and then of course we have most all of this well all this is commercially designated somewhere in between the neighborhood commercial or town center this is a little bit of an odd piece of town center little finger we know we've got some properties up in here that may be appropriate for that I know this is a little bit different with the higher density there. So mostly we've kind of looked at this as maybe there's some opportunity. Can I ask a question, Todd, on that? Being as you are a descendant of William Draper, I expect you to understand the history of this. We've been told. If you go there off 800 East, right there in the middle, those townhomes and stuff, how did that get zoned residential high density? Do we know or how long? Because those aren't that. How old are those, maybe 10 years old, 15 years old? Before I got here. So I don't know, but I know it would have had to come through. This is the land use component of the residential high density, but it also falls with the zoning change at the same time. So they came in, were approved for the zone change, then probably for the project right after it. Does anyone remember when that was built? Has anyone? I don't have it. Neighbors might, but. So what we were really looking at is kind of, the other thing here is you'll notice this is already residential medium density land use all in here. And that's kind of where a couple of things kind of change a little bit. So. Todd, what? Yes. Go ahead. What's the density? Oh, you're gonna, it's on that chart right there. This chart right here. Okay. Yeah, that residential medium density is two to four million units per acre. Joe, anything else you wanted to add on that one, Tali? Just that it's consistent with the RA2, the R3, and the R4 industry. That's right. Can you remind me of the difference between neighborhood commercial and community commercial? One, we don't do so much anymore. Very similar. In fact, in a lot of places, we have areas like just on the other side of Seventh there where they're together. I know Jiffy Lube couldn't go into neighborhood commercial because they don't allow vehicles. Yeah, neighborhood commercials may be a little lower intensity, community commercials a little higher. They're very, very similar. And the use tables got some differences on them. Yeah, some differences in the use tables, but I think that was to kind of maybe restrict some of the more intense or more problematic uses. The other thing we have, of course, is that residential high density, 8 to 12. That was that little project of townhomes in there. There is residential medium high density between these two, which would be your range between four and eight units. And our high density outside of the stationary plan is 12 units an acre. Yep. Yep. Up to 12. Because every time I see that, I'm like, that's not high density. Now, that comes from my time at the league dealing with all this density that the housing crisis has brought to us. But that's our max is 12 units an acre outside of stationary plans, right? Mm-hmm. And then kind of as Todd pointed out with the other one, there's zones that are compatible with that, are considered compatible. Mostly that RM1, RM2, those are multifamily zones. So if we're rezoning to this, typically we're looking multifamily. It does allow for single family on smaller lots in those RM zones. As small as 4,000 square feet, I think, in RM2. Todd probably has it pointed out. Yeah, 4,000 square feet. So the RM1 and 2 allow for 4,000 square foot. I think it's 1,000 for town homes. Yeah, if you're doing a town home, it's 1,000, but if they're single family detached, it's 4,000 for the RM2 and 6,000 for the RM1. So 6,000 square foot lot could be done with a single family detached home. We don't see projects on that usually. If they have that zoning, they want the town homes at 1,000 square foot. There is some push from our... legislative overlords to increase single family detached living in an affordable concept. That's the current push that we're getting. And we have seen a few projects come in conceptually to planning with some things like that, but they are often asking for density this high or higher. Have you had some come in at a 4,000-square-foot lot? We had one recently come in looking to do 3,000 square feet on a lot. Three? Detached, single-family. Really tiny. But that is a product that the state government wants. Probably. That would be like what they have downtown Salt Lake City, those little trailer houses. Hardly that, but yeah. I can even fit a home on a 3,000-square-foot lot. That would be interesting. Yeah. I'm just telling you what I got told by the governor when I was getting told by the governor. Yep. So when we talk about this missing middle. It was a telly. Let me be clear. Pounding on said table. So I think Troy. I was good. I didn't say any sore words or anything. I was quiet. You're referring to the cottage style homes? Yes. Yes. OK. And what is the square footage typically on those? There's a range. It really is. So do you know that project up in Davis, Weaver County, Candlelight Homes? No, not Candlelight Homes. Nielsen Homes? Are you familiar with that one? No, no, no. It was going to go into Cooper or Hufford. Hufford. Yeah. I'm not from here, not from there. Well, Mayor Fitman, ROS. Yeah. They had a project. It was Cottage Homes. I don't know. I don't know who the speaker's from. You're right. I can't remember. I kind of remember, yeah, but I just don't remember anything else. I think it was going to go in one city, and the council lost their mind over it, and then it went to the other city. But I drove through it the other day when I was up there. Yeah. It was the cottage homes, what they're trying to, you know, what they talk about. That's what it was. Yeah. And, yeah, there's kind of a range for those. I mean, you could go up to, like, even an 8,000-square-foot lot and still kind of do a cottage-style development. but it could be 3,000, it could be 2,000. Which would be how many per acre? You want to calculate it? Well, half of it is 20,000 square feet. Well, you've got 40,000. Eight? So if you're... I'm not good at math. Math on the fly. See, that's why we're planners. If we really liked math, we'd be the engineers. Eight with roads. Yeah. Eight with roads. Yeah, so. So they're single family stand alone. Stand alone is a product the state would like to see more of, even if they are on smaller lots to make them more affordable. And are we limiting height? In this case, we haven't changed anything yet. What if I don't care what the state wants and I want to do what's right for our community and what plans? Exactly. So I don't really care. Because that's kind of what we were looking at here, because that's kind of what the direction we felt we got. was kind of look at this area, what's there? What are the opportunities? Is there an opportunity to change something that would make this better? Or is this kind of the way it should be already? So again, you'll notice, even though most of this was all in that residential median density, the RA2 is compatible, but that RA1 isn't necessarily the acre lots. Again, we've got a little bit of incongruence. We've got some RA1 here on a lot that is not an acre. And then we have properties that would be in that commercial land use designation that are zoned residential kind of throughout. Even one right here. So what we had GIS put together for us was kind of a map that kind of overlaid the different uses. You want to talk about this one? You can probably talk more with Parker about this one than I did. So this red, you have the commercial uses. The light blue is just single-family uses. So the medium blue is the duplex, and then the dark blue is the triplexes that exist. There's two of those and three of the duplexes. There's some mixed use over there in the extension of the town center and the woodwork. And then there's a couple of gray bacon parcels still. And that all kind of leads to what the density actually looks like, not what it actually is, or not what it actually is planned or designated as. So you can see that we have a variety of sort of lot sizes. And if you divide it by the number of units that are on there, it's sort of density. on each of those lots throughout the area. Some are even at the high or low level just because of their size. So the duplexes that are there and stuff would be considered high density? Because of the number of units and the size of the lot that they're on. But the zoning does not fit that. Yeah. It doesn't fit the zone. These are kind of, that's kind of our next slide, I think, isn't it, that I'm forming? That's a couple more in. This just shows sort of the black is the building footprints, and you can sort of see this area has sort of larger lots, gets smaller sort of building footprints on it than some of our surrounding. And then you can see over there on the, to the east, the other R3 area and how I have a question or an answer to the question that council member asked about those town homes. Can I just tell you about the year they were built? Go ahead. It was 2013 and 14 that they were built. According to the neighbor that lives next door to them. What was your neighbor's name? I'm Jim Duncan. Jim Duncan. I was guessing around 10 years. What's your name sir? Thank you. The next map is kind of, yeah, the one we kind of put together to try and show what we're kind of dealing with on that in congruence. The idea here being we've got two colors that when they're blended, it's both, the purple. So where the use doesn't necessarily match the zoning is in the red. Red is, sorry, red is smaller, lots are smaller than the zoning allows. Yeah. So the red blocks don't conform to the current zone size-wise. The blue is where the zoning and the land use aren't consistent. So we have those RA1 properties that are not consistent with the R3 density land use destination or the residential zone properties that are in the commercial. But the purple is zoning and land use both are incompatible. So there's a lot of purple. So the whole size and the whole swath is just medium. So that kind of helped us see where maybe this issue occurs a little bit more if there were a focus spot in here. Another part that I just, I had someone come in today to talk about the properties right here and actually look at requesting an RM2 zone to put townhomes in. And that was going to be my question. If you had people inquiring about different pieces within the study area. That's the quilter's place. Yeah, so it's a quilter's place. And as I understand it, kind of the family has purchased most of these. I think there's one that they don't own. It's still a neighbor that may or may not be willing to come in with them on some kind of development. We know we have, oh gosh, Frato Farms. Yeah, we need to clarify on that. The development has come in and asked for some things and kind of maybe spearheaded asking the question about what we might want here as a city. So we know that there's development pressure probably in this area. And we know that there's incongruence to things up here. I've also had a conversation with one of the family members up in this area. And the family is looking to maybe do something of a development. Their words, not mine, of we just don't want to sell it to a developer. We'd rather do it ourselves so we know what we get. So, yeah, maybe just moving back to kind of that, you can kind of see maybe some development pressure in this area that we need to look at. We might want to look at some things here. Todd, do you want to go over the options? So the options that we thought of were we can keep the land use map as it is. We can determine that it's appropriate with the sort of half-block commercial, new density residential, full-block commercial on the bottom, on the south side, sorry. You know, council can direct us to look into amending the land use map. Another option is we can amend the land use map and then start city-initiated zoning rezones, which but it's an option. You know, in that case, whatever existing use will continue to be able to continue as a legal non-conformity use on those properties. So, yeah, option three may create more non-conformities, but it may be an option if you're wanting to really set what it is you want there or what we feel the community wants there. Have we done that elsewhere in the city where we've been the one initiating the zone change? That doesn't sound very familiar to me. Yeah, it's very rare and I don't necessarily recommend it unless it's something that Council feels is something that needs to happen. And one and two would allow the property owners to come in on their own. Three would be more along the lines of a master plan driven by the Council. Yeah. So wouldn't two also be a master plan? Well, it's at the highest level of Yeah. We want this right here. Specific, yeah, specific zones, specific uses, that kind of thing. Land use map is, are there maybe some areas in there where maybe you've got the medium density, is there a medium high density area that maybe is a buffer between the commercial? Is that appropriate? Is it not? Yeah, go ahead. Yeah. You did put those up after, that's right. Again, this is our current land use map as the general plan currently envisions the area to sort of become eventually. And that neighborhood commercial. Medium density two to four? Does it afford for medium density two to four? No, but it can be dense in the office. This would have your commercial uses. Could you get equivalent 12 inches? I don't think it really works that way just because commercial is so different. We don't have standards that say one size for commercial. So somebody could chop it into little tiny units on a commercial condo or leave it as a bigger box store. Obviously. Sort of buy that whole section. Yeah. Whatever building fits. Well, this is already that. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Well, no, what I mean is, like, say there was a section like that. Yeah. You could, I mean, the density could, the use could look pretty dense in the commercial zone, depending on how they did it. Yeah. Yeah, their only main limit really is parking and the 20% landscape that we require. Is that the definition of abundant landscaping, or what? That's just been our standard for a long time. Yeah, I don't know that I have a definition for that. So, I mean, there may be something to look at here or here. If that's where a lot of the development pressure is right now, we do realize those are the larger lots. As compared to maybe some of the smaller ones that are up in here that actually have that lower RA1 land use zone. The other thing is if you did change designations on the land use here that would kind of going back to these other pieces that would then kind of set with that density should be if someone were to come in and ask for a reason on their own. So just kind of keeping in mind that this is already kind of that quarter acre two to four for most of the area that is residential, kind of behind the commercial. That was two to four per acre. Two to four per acre, yes. Thoughts, direction? I'm good with two to four houses per acre in this land use map. kind of to keep it as it is. I don't know. I'm wondering if we can go back and fix things, but I like the medium use through there. I feel comfortable with it. What about, we're just talking, what about 120, 200 south? Making that neighborhood commercial on both sides. I just think it's going to be creepy. On that note, Yeah, I'm just, yeah. And those are some of the issues that you need to consider are creep, because we've talked about creep in other areas. Does that stop the creep? You mean this right here? Yes. Like demarking, right? Just the line that's almost straight, right where your mouse is, that area. And the mid-block there? Mm-hmm. Like the southern part of the block. But then I don't know. I don't, I'm. From a buying perspective, it wouldn't hurt to have a buffer if you went with a higher density residential. The neighborhood commercial is kind of your lower end commercial anyway. I don't know if we really have a lower commercial land use intensity. It just shows up really bright and vibrant as they decide to use red. I mean, which is the best buffer? Well, is there a density in between medium and high? Yeah, there's a residential medium high. It's not on this. That was on another slide and it was under eight. It's between four and eight. So that is an option if you're looking to maybe adjust the land use map. It could go in there, but that would then be maybe upping the density for some. It would allow... multifamily at the RM1, which again, maxes out the eight per acre instead of the 12. But it could also do single family residential, the R4, the R5, which would be some of the smaller lot, single family. But even with these land use designations, it still is up to a property owner to come in and ask for a specific zone that fits that. And for instance, RM1 may not work at all in this area. It may work in some parts of this area. versus R4 or whatever. So really, this land use is the highest level that we're looking at. And within that, there's typically three or four different options within each one of those designations. So if they wanted to create an opportunity for single family detached on the 4,000 square foot lot, if that was something they wanted to do, what would they have to do to do that? Be the residential high density. But if you wanted to go to the 6,000-square-foot lot, this would be that. Because that would be 10 units an acre. But if you were a 3,000-square-foot lot, you'd be about two units. But don't we have to take into account roads and stuff and remove some of that? So wouldn't you really only be eight units? Probably. That just kind of depends there. I think it's important to bear in mind the proximity as well to the Kimball's Lane station area plan. And this is right kind of between both. In fact, it is. Yeah. To me, if you're going to increase residential density, I think it should be single family detached, that type of product. And however that's done to guarantee its own ownership. It needs to be a step back from the density that we're already seeing. A single-family home would help do that, wouldn't it? Like buffer it? I'd only want to buffer it, though. I wouldn't let it then stay that way. But those homes that are back in there, a lot of those are twin homes, I think. It doesn't look like a twin home. There are some single-family ones. And there's that neighborhood behind it. I think the main thing we're looking for is kind of a correction. If you want us to bring forward a land use map amendment, we can do that. It's great the way it is. We can leave it alone. That would probably be the two steps here. desire to rezone, we could take that too. We have so much that's happening in Kimball's Lane. There's so much that's happening over here on the UTA side. I don't want to do anything in this spot that's going to make that worse. There's tremendous concern already about Kimball's Lane. I'm sorry. That's how I feel. The impact of the traffic and these roads that aren't yet fixed. to hold more density. And I don't really want to go in with a broad brush and rezone big swaths. I'm uncomfortable with that. I think that's an overreach. It's an option. We put it out there. We don't necessarily recommend that. If leaving it alone is good, I think we'll leave it alone. It also helps us in planning. We get these requests. We can kind of give them a little bit of feedback as to If they do come in and want to request one of these homes, they're welcome to. We'll bring it to the council, of course. But then that decision will be made. So two, do you want to leave it alone? Three? I like the land use map as it is. So that's three. Well, I love quarter acre, half acre lots, for sure. It's not going to be affordable. Well, my concern is if we do something like this, and changed it, then I think we've opened the door for just townhouses everywhere. And so I like having a lower density where then we can the quarter acre. Yeah, keeping it at the level it's at. It's a big change for people that live there. And I don't want to, oops. Another single family home is not . You still get the quarter acre with the current. If they came in and asked for an R4 zone, that would still be allowed in the area. I'd say compatible. There's more security to me if a developer comes in with a development agreement, and they're very specific about what they're going to be developing, and it's not we've overridden the system and said, well, townhomes are fine in this whole entire area. At least if we have a development agreement, we can say cottage-style homes, limit the height, make them be single-family, make them be for sale. Okay. Yeah, but that could come with a plan that would maybe be more than for... dwellings per an acre it could and then we'd have to look at each one individually and see if it fits the area this just kind of sets the development agreement does give us a lot of control i think that's the only way you control it is the development i mean there's a presumption that that land use designation is correct and i don't know what evidence overcomes that presumption in any shape or form at this point The challenge is if you've got existing uses there that aren't compatible. You can't change that. The zone change could change that, but I don't know that that's something that you want. It could also bring others out of compliance. That doesn't change for anyone that's owned it now. Even if we were to fix it. No, that's what I mean. It doesn't change. If you fixed it for some and you'd mess it up for others, right? I don't think there's one change that's going to manifest perfection in this area. You do have 12 townhomes right in the middle of it. That's the problem. But we didn't do that, and we can't fix that now. No community is perfect. And certainly that's the other, right? That's not the majority. It's a spot zone. It's a spot zone, and we don't like to spot zone. I'm not going to do that. I think we've got what we kind of needed to kind of know what direction to go, so thank you. All right, so we've got 30 minutes. Want to do council manager discussions now? Yeah. He's got one. I'll just say the residents in Suncrest were really grateful for all of the work that was done with the wood chipping when they cleared the debris behind their homes to make them more fire safe. Thank you all for coming. Yes. Thank you. I think. Hopefully it was entertaining. It was. Kudos to Parks and Rec. to Rhett for really setting up and offering up his wood chipper to those residents who cleared the debris. I think we want to- I'd like to make a comment about the zoning change. We're actually not doing comments on it, but they've decided to leave it how it is. So that's what their direction is. For your information, I'm totally against changing 8 East because of the high density and the traffic. Leave it at R2. I just want to say the wood chippering thing went really well, and Rhett really stepped up and made that possible. I think eight different residents had collected debris from their backyards. There was ten of them. Ten of them. I think most of you have heard. Several of them said thank you. Yeah. And they sent a nice email, and there was a really nice thing up on their Facebook page. A lot of them have been losing their fire insurance, so I think this meant a lot to them. Anything else? That's very hard to insure up there right now. Yeah. And anything scary? No, I just wanted to thank Rhett and everybody who supported that. I think the more we can do for this defensible space. I'll pass to the staff. Who's next? I don't have anything there. Bryn? I had heard about the UTA. Did you? Oh, yeah. Yep. So Bryn reached out to me with an email she'd received from UTA. So I asked them what it was about. And they said that they had sent it to everybody on the council. There were three attachments. Their budget is approved at the end of the year. Yep. One of the things they sent was a tentative budget signature sheet saying that you'd received their tentative budget. But I don't know if any of you else have received that. And I'd never seen this before in any other prior year. And Kelly hadn't seen it. And John hadn't seen it. So I don't know if this is something new. But maybe check your email. Brent, if you want to fill yours out and sign it and send it in that you received it, that's great. I don't know statutorily if we've got any obligation. I don't think there's any requirement that you sign when you receive an intended budget. I think they would love for you to do it, but you don't have to do it. There we go. Maybe they know I attend their meetings virtually. They picked you out. OK. But their budget is on their website. Are you the landowner? No, I just liked it. I was like. It's got transportation involved. I attend their meetings sometimes physically. Okay, anyone else? I have nothing. Marsha? Any staff? Yep. Rhett, do you want to go ahead? I just thought I'd update you because some of you had asked about where we're at with an arborist. After you report that you have one accepted an offer, I've signed the papers and he'll be starting Monday. Several years in the making, but I think he's going to be great. He comes with all the certifications we require, CDL, city experience. He's made the background checks and everything, so we're ready to go. Let's do it. That's awesome, Rhett. So I was hoping that all these changes that were requested for tonight, that your arborist had had a chance Mr. Cooley? Yeah, I'll give you an update on 138 South. It will be opening on next Thursday, a week from this Thursday. We could open it earlier, and it is open to local traffic, and a lot of other people are using it. But it will help us finish quicker by keeping it closed. Thursday and hopefully they'll be primarily done so the rest will just be shoulder work after that point. So hopefully. And I responded to that email. I sent it to you first and then I sent it to him like explaining the soil issues and the trench issues. Yeah really they're only about two weeks behind but there were some major utility conflicts. So this was a joint project with the sewer district and with WaterPro and the city. And utilities always go in first. And there were just a lot of utility conflicts. There was a lot of old stuff in there. Well, they had some collapsed trenches. Yeah, they did. Yeah, a lot of sand. So actually digging through sand is easy, but keeping a trench in the sand is not. As we all learned at the beach. You can try it out. Well, great job on that project. It turned out nice. The road's nice. The sidewalk's nice. I'll have you illegally driven down here. On my bike. I will say that the first asphalt that they put in did not pass, so they had to rip it out. I saw that. That's always sad to see, but it just did not meet specifications. We have a very rigorous inspection program. Really, we've been having some issues with the mix coming out of Geneva's site, which is strange. Actually, we didn't use their asphalt to finish the project. Well, that's nice. It's going to have stormwater, storm drain. It's going to be... yeah absolutely handle a 700 year storm now yeah every few years there's a few cities have had those luckily not us anybody else have anything linda do you want to talk about our mountain lion friend mountain lions yeah i think mike had sent an email to all of the council about our process to see if you had any preferences we have received suggestions from the public, we've narrowed that down to a list of like 10. So there were a few options to go to the next step, which would be we pick a top three, have people vote on those, list all of the narrowed down submissions and have people vote, or either you as council or we as staff choose a name and run with it. Because since it's grown organically through social media, We're kind of at a point where we need to continue the story. And so we don't really want to introduce a lengthy process at this point because it will lose its momentum. So people are having fun with it. And so the next step would be he is in court being judged by Judge Gardner. And the city will adopt him or her as the mascot for the city and turn his life around too. Oh my gosh, can you go to Peer Court? You should go to Peer Court. Since he was illegally stalking the hikers and bikers in the cave. And he stole a city phone. So what are people going to say when we adopt a cougar? A mountain lion. It is what it is. It is what it is. What is in a name? Yeah. How do you guys want to do it? Do you want to narrow it down to three or just pick a name out of the... I think people might want to vote. I think narrowing it down to three is fine. What's the name of Utah's mascot? Isn't it named Hawk? Swoop. Swoop. There's your name. That's on the list. So you guys want to narrow it down to the top three and then vote on the top three? Do you think people would want to vote? Would that be engaging on your social media? I think that's always a good option. The worry is like we have three names that we feel really strongly about. Let's make sure we have three names we feel really good about. What names do you have? Why don't you send all the names to us and let them pick the top three? We pick three that would be OK. Everybody vote on your top three names when Linda emails you, and then we'll go from there. Remember when they put the name, the boat, that ship in England? Boating McFace. A lot of these are versions of that. Of course, you have the right to. Trump, whatever name might be there. I'm down to call it Bodie McBodie face. So it's ours. Is it ours now? It's been abandoned. Yeah, it's abandoned. It was on our property. There's no police report. And no one's called about it. It was littering, and we just confiscated the litter. It's found property. You know it's someone's. Like someone's watching. Have you seen the cougar? Go ahead. Last meeting. I mentioned that I'd received a letter from the Jordan Basin Improvement District asking for either an appointment to their board or to go through a selection procedure. So the options are to appoint either the mayor or one of the council members to be on their board or go through a procedure similar to what we do when we fill a vacancy on the TRSSD board. Tasha had asked the questions about time commitments, et cetera. So it's a monthly meeting at 7 in the morning. Okay. It's typically about an hour long meeting that is either in person or Zoom. And then there's a one night in November, there's an evening meeting to approve their budget. So it seems like it's a fairly minimal commitment, but Apparently there's some really important issues coming up, and it might be wise to have somebody from the council or the mayor. Troy had said he was interested in doing it. Is that still true? Yeah, I'm willing to do it if you want to appoint an elected official. Well, they said they would prefer an elected official, so I think we need to do one of us. They did say that, yes. It's one of the three government functions. If you want it, Troy, you're the mayor, you should do it. I don't need to. I'll tee it up on the 20th, or the next meeting November for the bus appointment. Yeah, this is what Alan Summerhays was doing, right? So this is Jordan. If you appoint an elected official, one of us, then you don't have to do any selection process. Right. Interviews and stuff. What have you. And of course, the elected officials accountable to the residents that use the pipes in which said groundwater leaves the community. You want an alternate from there to help you? Yeah, probably good to have an alternate or a staff member just in case. I don't know that the statute allows a staff member to be appointed. I can look at that. But just someone to . Yeah, one of us being an alternate. Yeah, right. And then it's just the mayor pretending. And you're there for a time for two or three more meetings. So go with it. OK. OK. Ty, you're not going anywhere for the next three months. It's a very important job. Well, the person won't take their position until the plant. Take Allen. Already there. That's all I have. Thank you. Anybody else have anything else? I just know from Jen that we have two alternates on the Planning Commission whose terms technically have expired. I called it, in fact, to Lori. Tracy looked into it, and they're okay. Okay, they're still out? Okay. But we'll get them, hopefully, on a future meeting. The mayor has been lazy. We'll have a lot more energy. We got some email today from the woman from Miller Sports and Entertainment. Did you guys all see that? No. Today? No, I didn't. They want us to partner with them to host a fundraiser night for their holiday light display. Was that today? It just came today, yeah, at 11 AM, 10.57 AM. And they would kick us back some of the ticket money. I don't even know if we're allowed to do that. We already do our own holiday lightings. But I think it would be kind of nice for us to offer the residents a discount. They said on our fundraising night, residents from Graper could go for $14 instead of $18. Some residents would like to go at a discounted price. To go where? To see their holiday light display. At the ballpark in America first. Oh, they're trying to sell tickets to the ballpark. And I think there are some residents who'd like to go check it out. Do we have to do anything to be a partner, or do we just pick a night? I haven't seen this email. What do you guys think about that? I actually think it might not be a bad idea. I mean, we might get a little bit of money from it. It sounds like it's the thing that schools do for fundraising all the time, like the potatoes and all the time, where you just pick a night, they do all of the marketing, and you just tell everybody, go this way. And we'd get money back. And they get a discount. Well, it just gives something for our residents to benefit from. Yeah, they could see the new ballpark. They'd get a lower price to go in. Linda and I sometimes get these. We got one for Jazz. Do you want me to reach out to them and tell them you guys want to do it? I think people kind of like those special drapery things. I think that's a good community thing to engage with. neighboring community and people like we're not forcing anybody to do it like if they want to go to special draper jazz night they go to special draper jazz night and i would just make sure there's not a minimum or something you know sometimes it's like oh you have to yeah i know that there's no string yeah you don't have to provide so many people do you want me to reach back and tell them we're interested in doing it well we and i guess we need to determine a date when we want to do it I think we should think about it. I didn't know that they asked us to do a jazz thing. A couple months ago, they asked us to do a jazz thing. That's how desperate the jazz artists are to sell tickets. Can't they just buy their tickets with a special code? Well, maybe we just need a little more information. And then we should see your remodeled area. You're interested in checking it out. Yeah. I think anything you can offer us is a discounted price. I think it fosters that sense of community. Yeah, so this guy, he's called from the Utah Jazz and Utah Mammoth Ticketing Department. wait we have to be careful of that you have to make sure it's not It sounds like we just have to advertise it, basically, and offer it. Our residents would buy discounted tickets, and we would get $4 back on each ticket. It would just be a family night or something like that. Something to do. I think that's kind of cool. Like a whole neighborhood can go. Sure, absolutely. This kind of started with a trip to the 40s. I think those are cool opportunities. Like Draper City employees want discounted tickets to go see the ice hockey team. That's a nice thing to offer. We tried to do it. All right, so we're going to have a break until the meeting. Why didn't we do that? Oh, yeah, Marsha went home. Okay. She feels sick. All right, ladies and gentlemen. Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to our city council meeting this evening. I'm Mayor Walker. I'd like to get it started. I apologize we're five minutes late. I'd like to call this meeting officially to order. We're going to start with the Pledge of Allegiance, which we do every week. And we're going to have the Pledge of Allegiance by Mr. Red Ogden, our Parks Director. Go ahead, sir. All right. Item number three has been continued. And item number four is next. And I'm going to start off. Item number four is an opportunity for us to do a proclamation for Extra Mile Day. And I'm going to read the shortened version of the proclamation, the long version. It is long. This one is shortened down, but I'm going to read this proclamation into our record. Extra mile day, whereas the city of Draper is a community which acknowledges that a special vibrancy exists within the entire community when its individual citizens collectively go the extra mile in personal effort, volunteerism, and service. And whereas the city of Draper is a community which encourages its citizens to maximize their personal contribution to the community by giving of themselves wholeheartedly and with total effort commitment and conviction to their individual ambitions, family, friends, and community. And whereas the city of Draper is a community which chooses to shine a light on and celebrate individuals and organizations within its community who go the extra mile in order to make a difference and lift up fellow members of their community. And whereas the city of Draper acknowledges the mission of Extra Mile America to create 550 extra mile cities in America, and is proud to support Extra Mile Day, which will be November the 1st, 2025. Now, therefore, I, Troy K. Walker, Mayor of Draper City, Utah, do hereby proclaim November 1st, 2025 to be Extra Mile Day. I urge each individual community to take time on this day to not only go the extra mile in his or her own life, but to also acknowledge all those who are inspirational in their efforts and commitment to make their organizations, families, community, country, and world a better place. I've signed this dated... 21st day of October 2025. Now, next, I have, we have in Draper, since it is extra mile day coming up, we have an extra mile hero. Unfortunately, our extra mile hero is probably doing whatever it is she loves the most right now. So, and it's our extra mile hero is Ms. Jean Hendrickson. who was a lifelong educator and community servant who exemplified kindness and dedication throughout her 96 and a half years. As a teen, she attended Draper Park Junior High. After graduating from BYU and beginning a teaching career that would last 32 years, including at Draper Elementary, she married a Draper native, Robert Hendrickson, raised three children, earned a master's degree and a paralegal certification, and volunteered extensively, including at the Utah legal aid, and as a docent of the Sorenson Home Museum. In 1992, alongside fellow retirees, she founded the Draper Visual Arts Foundation, the DVAF, to restore the Reed and Wilda Beck Art Collection. The DVAF evolved into curating community displays like the Draper Visual Arts Mural at City Hall, offering low-cost children's art classes, hosting the annual Art in the Barn event, and awarding $70,000 in prizes through the art scholarship competition for high school seniors. As a DVAF president for many years, Jean earned the 2017 Draper Citizen of the Year Award. At 91, during the COVID-19 pandemic, she sewed 100 masks for healthcare workers. She has survived by her children, Carl, Scott, and Jenny, plus 11 grandchildren, 19 great-grandchildren, and three great-great-grandchildren, leaving a profound legacy of compassion, service, and going the extra mile. So please give a round of applause for Ms. Jean Hendrickson. Thank you. And we have now a certificate and a nice plant. So children of Ms. Hendrickson, would you come up? Is that what we want, Kelly? Come on up. We'll come down to the front here and present you guys. There's a great picture of Jean. I met her first campaigning, knocked on her door, you know, kind of hoping it'd be a short, just an introduction visit. It turned into like, I'm not kidding you, like 45 to 50 minutes of getting to know Jean. So it was awesome. She was a fun lady. So we will miss her. She certainly was exemplary of the Extra Mile Foundation and everything she did. All right. Next, it's a night of proclamations. The next proclamation we are doing this evening is a proclamation for kindness week worldwide, which we certainly can use more of in this world. Whereas kindness is an expression of love that uplifts others, ourselves, fostering health, peace, and well-being. Whereas kindness is the heartbeat of humanity, sustaining hope, building self-esteem, and strengthening connection. Whereas giving and receiving kindness increases happiness, optimism, and self-worth while reducing helplessness and depression, whereas acts of kindness inspire others to pay it forward, extending their impact far beyond the initial gesture. Whereas no act of kindness is too small to make a difference, and every individual has the power to change lives and communities through compassion. Whereas kindness, humanity's greatest asset, is a conscious choice that should be encouraged, recognized, and celebrated to create a more peaceful and caring world, now therefore, I, Troy K. Walker, Mary Draper City, Utah, do hereby proclaim November 8th through the 15th, 2025, as Kindness Week worldwide. During this week, individual families, schools, businesses, faith-based and service organizations, and all community members are encouraged to embrace the same, see the good, be the good, go the extra mile, signed and dated the 21st day of October, 2025. Are we keeping these? All right. One more picture. Jenny, are you ready? And I'll bring the extra mile proclamation. All right, that gets us to item number six, which is an opportunity for members of the public to address the council on general items. There is a public hearing coming up in this meeting. If you're here for that, we ask that you wait until that public hearing is called to keep our record clear on the comments. But if you'd like to make a general public comment to our city council, this is the time. Is there anyone that would like to make a general public comment? All right, just before you come up, I think you've done it before. I'll go over our rules. They're simple. There's a clock to my right, your left. It's a three-minute timer. Everyone gets three minutes. No one gets more. You don't have to use them all. Give us your name and address, and we'll be glad to hear your comments. Go ahead. Hi, I'm Sarah Brinkerhoff from the Draper Library. Our address there is 1136 East Pioneer Road. So we are literally right next to you. I'm really excited. It's been too long since I've been here. I will be back sooner. And this is a really good tie-in to your last two proclamations. I'm here to talk about our tiny art show. I brought a poster. You may have heard about it. This is our fourth year doing our tiny art show at the Draper Library. We anticipate over 500 entries from community members. The art show will be on display from November 10th to probably about December 20th. But we'd like to invite the council as well as any of our government... employees or anyone to come and join us to help judge the art show our art show brings together people of from like kindergarten up all ages and ability levels we already have over 140 all ability entrants from our adults with intellectual disabilities that are still really active in our all ability program at the library and so we'd love to have you guys come it's a very easy process you don't have to sign up or do any applications i have a flyer there's either a qr code you can scan or we have a paper ballot it's very simple there's only five You just write your favorite art under each category. So we'll have a lot of art, but it's very easy because there's just five awards. You can literally just write down the numbers of five or ten if you have time. It's a very close walk. You can come over and join us anytime we're open. If you can't make it during our open hours, shoot me an email. I can get you there before we open. But we're open, you know, 10 to 9 Monday through Thursday and 10 to 6 Friday and Saturday. So we'd love to have you come visit and do the art show. We'll be having a reception. for the public on December 10th in the evening and one in the afternoon for our All Abilities folks. It's a great opportunity to come and represent the community and be there and see all these wonderful individuals who have contributed. We've had people who have been doing this for four years. They do it as a family. It's a great thing that represents the love of art in our Extra Mile stories as well as a way for you guys to show Extra Miles, especially because the first time to judge is during Kindness Week. you can show a kindness to the library by coming and judging and this stands for all of our employees our police our firefighters any of the other employees of the government can stop by we'll have paper ballots or you can scan and use your phone and vote on it and like i said it's a very quick thing an easy way to give back and to participate if you want your name to be included we'll have a list of the judges or you can be anonymous it's totally optional but it's a great way to show that we're participating in things and I'm hoping to come back and share more about the great things the library's up to. We've been very busy, lots of fun things, so thank you for the opportunity to share this. Thank you. And I'll leave these with you guys. If you reach out to Kelly Chalberg via e-mail, she can schedule it for council members. Thank you very much. Anyone else like to make a general public comment to the council this evening? All right, seeing no further public comment, I'll close up. Item 6, go to 7, which is our consent items. Item 7A is approval of the October 7th 20-25 CITY COUNCIL MEETING MINUTES. ITEM 7B IS AN APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 2556, A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO GRANT A PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT ON REAL PROPERTY OWNED BY DRAPER CITY FOR THE JENSON FARM PARK. ITEM 7C IS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 2557, A RESOLUTION OF THE DRAPER CITY COUNCIL CONVEYING REAL PROPERTY WHILE RETAINING ACCESS EASEMENTS TO ENABLE DEVELOPMENT ACCORDING TO THE TERMS OF THE WAR HORSE RANCH DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT. ITEM 7D IS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION 2558, A resolution appointing Tasha Lowry as a member of the Draper City Audit Committee. Mr. Mayor, I'd like to make a motion. All right, we have a motion by Ms. Lowry to go ahead. I'd like to make a motion to approve the consent calendar. Motion to approve by Ms. Lowry. Is there a second? I'll second. Second by Mr. Green. Any further discussion? We're seeing Ms. Lowry. How do you vote? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. Mr. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Johnson? Yes. I'll note that passes four to zero. I'll note Councilwoman... Marsha Baudry is ill this evening and has gone home. She was here for our study meeting, but had to leave. So we have a quorum with four members of the council. Item eight is next. It's an item for council consideration. It is a public hearing. It is approval of ordinance number 1678 and 1679, an ordinance amending the zoning map for approximately 0.83 acres from RE2 residential agricultural to RM multifamily residential. RM2, multifamily residential, and an ordinance amending the land use map for the same property for residential low to medium density to residential high density located at 625 East, 1900 South, known as the Kimball's Junction Addition Zoning Map and Land Use Map. We'll have a report by Todd Draper. Go ahead, sir. Thank you. And I am filling in for Jennifer. This was her application, and she did take this to the Planning Commission as well, so... This is the vicinity map. This is over by Kimball's Lane. This is the Edge Homes properties there. This is also part of what they'll be adding to that. This is, again, the aerial map. And you'll see the existing land use map, residential high density for those properties. That is the requested land use for this so they can add it to the overall project. AND THEN AGAIN, WITH THE ZONI MAP, CURRENTLY RA2, THEY WOULD LIKE TO PUT THAT TO RM2. OF NOTE, IN THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT, IT WAS ALLOWED TO EXPAND THE AREA AS THEY WERE ABLE TO MAYBE ACQUIRE SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL PROPERTIES AROUND, SO THIS DOES NOT REQUIRE US TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT AT THIS TIME. AGAIN, JUST OVERALL OF WHERE THAT KIMBLES JUNCTION CURRENTLY IS, THAT WILL BE ADDED INTO THAT. AGAIN, JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE ON THAT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT ALLOWING THAT EXPANSION. THIS IS THE CURRENT SITE PHOTO. AND THE PLANNING COMMISSION AT THEIR MEETING DID FORWARD A POSITIVE RECOMMENDATION FOR THE LAND USE MAP CHANGE AND THE ZONING MAP CHANGE ON VOTES FIVE TO ZERO. DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR ME? QUESTIONS FOR MR. DRAPER. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING. IT'S RUNNING FROM THE PUBLIC WHO WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL ON ITEM 8, ORDINANCE 1678 AND 1679. THE OPPONENT'S HERE. DO YOU WANT TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL? COME ON UP. YEAH, THANK YOU. MY NAME IS BRANDON WATSON WITH EDGE HOMES. YEAH, SO THIS PARCEL CAME ACROSS OUR TABLE. just shortly after we were here for the rezone for the rest of the project. So timing didn't work out for us to bring it forward at that time, but we've done our due diligence on this project, this particular piece, and would like to annex that into our current development agreement. So happy to answer any questions you might have or can address the public as well. Questions? How will this be additive to your project? Yeah, sure. So we're currently in the process right now of drawing up our concept plan and finalizing it. And so pending a vote tonight, as we proceed forward with our concept plan, we do intend to incorporate this parcel into it with some additional units. How will that make it stronger? How will it make it stronger? Yes. Yeah, so this one's, the whole project as it sits is kind of peculiar because it's subdivided by the canal that cuts through it, right? This is just, oh yeah, there we go. Yeah, so this, the canal that kind of bisects the property, this is the last little parcel on this side of the canal that is north of 119 south. And so our development agreement prior, we had just said if there's any parcels adjacent to the project north of 119 south that might be interested, that would kind of finalize this little quadrant. of the station area plan. So yeah, that's our intent. Will it help you with this path we've discussed that will fall along the canal? Yeah, so yes, it will. The other significant part about this Dunn parcel is Draper City currently owns the road in front of the parcel. It does go and the next parcel to the west IT ACTUALLY ENDS, THERE'S NO MORE PUBLIC DEDICATION OF 119TH SOUTH AT THAT POINT. SO ALLOWING ACCESS ONTO 119TH, WHEN WE WERE AT OUR PLANNING COMMISSION, SOMEONE HAD WRITTEN IN A COMMENT IN SUPPORT OF THIS IN AN EFFORT TO PERHAPS ALLOW TRAFFIC TO GET OUT OF 119TH SOUTH, NOT GOING TO 7TH EAST, BUT COMING THROUGH OUR DEVELOPMENT TO GET OUT ONTO KIMBLES LANE. SO THIS DOES ALLOW US TO HAVE PUBLIC ACCESS THERE ON 119TH. What is your intent to use that access? Yeah, it's not a, we don't want it to be a main access. Our access that we're drawing up right now is on Kimball's Lane, both on the west and the east parcels. The one onto 119th South is intended to just be a third access, not as a main thoroughfare. But it does give you another option there. It gives us another option. We're looking at trying to figure out if we're going to just make that a one-way, meaning only those on 119th can come into our development versus our development going down onto 119th and out to 7th, because as our traffic study is indicating at 7th East and 119th South is a little congested in the evenings. And so we don't want to put any more traffic onto 119th South than... what's already there so we're just exploring some options right now on how to limit our development from going on to 119th but that does allow i mean 119 south right now is just a long dead end road and so from a fire safety standpoint it makes sense to have an access onto 119th to allow those folks south to get out should anything happen at that intersection of 119th and 7th east that makes sense any other any other questions all right thank you is there anyone from the public that would like to address the council on this item all right seeing no public comment we'll close the public comment period and bring this back for council consideration Mr. Mayor. Mr. Lowry. I make a motion that we approve ordinances 1678 and 1679. All right, the motion is to approve the ordinance. Is there a second? I'll second. Second by Ms. Lowry. Any further discussion? No, it makes sense to have this become a part of that stationary plan. Okay. Ms. Lowry, how do you vote? Yes. Mr. Lowry. Yes. Mr. Green. Yes. Ms. Johnson. Yes. Adams. PROVED UNANIMOUSLY, FOUR TO ZERO OF THOSE PRESENT. ITEM NUMBER NINE. AN EXCITING, AN EXCITING ITEM. I NEED A MOTION TO RECESS THE DRAPER COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AGENCY MEETING. SO MOVED. WE HAVE DOUBLE MOTION. A MOTION BY MS. LOWER, A SECOND BY MR. GREEN. MS. LOWER, HOW DO YOU VOTE? YES. MR. GREEN? YES. Mr. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Johnson? Yes. All right. We are now in to the Community Reinvestment Agency meeting. I will call this meeting to order. The consent items are on our calendar. Item 2A is approval of our July 15, 2025 CRA meeting minutes. Is there a motion? So moved. Motion by Ms. Lowry. Second? I'll second. Second by Mr. Green. Ms. Lowry, how do you vote? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. Mr. Lowry? Yes. YES JOHNSON YES ITEMS APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY FOUR TO ZERO NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE ITEM THREE A IT'S A APPROVED RESOLUTION CRA 2506 IT'S A RESOLUTION OF DRAPER COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT AGENCY DISSOLVING THE DRAPER GATEWAY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT GO AHEAD SO THIS IS A RESOLUTION WITHIN THE CRA TO ELIMINATE THIS GATEWAY CDA. NOW, THIS CDA WAS CREATED IN JANUARY OF 2010. THE PROJECT ENDED TAX COLLECTION IN JANUARY OF 2018. THE PROJECT INCLUDED A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS. YOU CAN SEE A LIST OF THE MAIN PROJECTS, COMFORT INN, KOWABUNGA BAY, DRAPER SPECTRUM, SPRINGHILL SUITES, FAIRFIELD INN, I CAN'T SAY THAT, SHAM, AND CINNAMARC. SO THOSE PROJECTS ALL We're part of the project. We helped with some of the funding and some of the different things to take place there. There is no fund balance left in here. Utah code requires that we close the project area or it will remain in existence for eternity. So this is really just a formality of closing that project area. We do it first within the CDA as soon as we close. LEAVE THE CDA, THE FIRST ITEM WILL BE TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE DOING THE SAME THING AS THE ELECTED BODY. SO QUESTIONS? NEVER SAY THE GOVERNMENT DOESN'T END SOMETHING. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION? MR. MAYOR, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 2506. ALL RIGHT. MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION CRA 2506 BY MS. JOHNSON. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. Second by Ms. Lowry. Any further discussion? Seeing none, Ms. Johnson, how do you vote? Yes. Ms. Lowry? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. Mr. Lowry? Yes. Items approved unanimously, four to zero. I now need a motion to adjourn from the CRA meeting, go back to the City Council meeting. So moved. Oh. Motion by Ms. Johnson, second by Ms. Lowry. Ms. Johnson, how do you vote? Yes. Ms. Lowry? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. Mr. Lowry? Yes. We're back in our City Council meeting, so efficiently and quick. Takes us to item number 10 on our council agenda. And 10A is consideration of ordinance 1681. It's an ordinance dissolving the Draper Gateway Community Development Project area adopted by the City Council of Draper. Item 10B. I guess we can go one at a time. We're going to do them all at the same time. 10A. All right. Is there a motion on 10A? So moved. Motion by Mr. Lowry. Second? Second. Second by Ms. Lowry. Is there further discussion? Seeing none, Mr. Lowry, how do you vote? Yes. Ms. Lowry? Yes. Ms. Johnson? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. Items approved unanimously, 4-0. 10B, consideration of Resolution 2553. It's a resolution approving... Oh, I see, a reimbursement. Totally. Way to work there. I appreciate that. With Lloyd's TLC Limited for construction of public improvements in the area of Bangor Parkway and 13800 South and 150 East in Draper. Mr. Barker? Yes. So before you, there's a... reimbursement agreement with Lloyd's TLC Limited. They're the owners of the parcel of land located at 138 Bangor and 150 East here in Draper. A couple of years ago, the legislature appropriated state funds in the amount of $3.45 million to improve certain system deficiencies along that area of Bangor Highway. And so the city would expend the funds and then be reimbursed by the state funds that are available. Lloyd's developer of the project that will eventually be in that large parcel also has some street frontage improvements that would benefit the city and the public by creating better access into their project. So this is a reimbursement agreement where THEY WILL DO THE WORK AND THE FIRST MONEY THAT WOULD BE PAID OUT OF THESE REIMBURSEMENT FUNDS WOULD GO TO PAY OFF THE SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS, WHICH ARE THE DEFICIENCIES THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, AND IF THERE'S ANY MONEY LEFT OVER, THEY COULD BE USED TO PAY FOR THE IMPROVEMENTS SUCH AS STREET LIGHT, EXTRA LANES, THAT TYPE OF THINGS THAT WOULD BENEFIT THE PUBLIC BY MAKING THE DEVELOPMENT EASIER TO ACCESS And so we're asking for City Council's approval of this agreement. It's anticipated that the work, if this is approved, would start in March or so in the spring. And that's all, if you have any questions. Can you give a little detail on what the deficiencies were? Maybe, Scott, if you could help me out with that. I think this is when David was the city manager. I guess we don't have microphones alone there. Sorry, I didn't quite catch the question. So what exactly are we spending the money on? So the Bangor Parkway needs to be widened as well as 138 South. So there will be a dedicated right turn on 138 South onto Bangor Parkway. There's also some improvements on 150 East from Bangor Parkway. So that will be widened to accommodate a right turn lane as well into the development. There will be also some right turn lanes on Bangor Parkway or a right turn lane into the development as well as a traffic signal on Bangor Parkway. that will be a three-quarter signal, which means it'll be a left in and a right out, but not a left out of the development. So really, there's a lot of this development, the project site is very challenged by traffic movements, and it's in an area where we already have fairly significant issues. It's not the worst area in Draper, but it can get bad. So these proposed solutions will alleviate a lot of the existing problems as well as accommodate the development. I don't want to belabor this, but I'm having a hard time visualizing some of these turns. Is it possible to pull up a map and have them kind of point to where these turns are? Scott, is it a similar turn like in Sandy with coming out of Quarry Bend Shopping Center where there's only really one direction that has to stop? The three-quarter line that you're talking about? I'm not familiar with that area. So all of the turning movements out of this site will be right only. So you can't turn left. to come out? Out of the development. Okay. So it's very challenging that way. So there will be an access here. So there will need to be a right turn lane into this access right here. Yeah, that'll be, so that lane will be only going into this development. But then from here, there's going to be another lane added. This will be a lane. It's kind of going to be a little pork chop median here so that you don't actually have to stop. It'll be a free flow onto a new lane that will be constructed on Bangor Parkway here that will go all the way down. And that eventually will continue on across I-15, that's a separate project. That's a UDOT project that will go on. We actually have most of the width, and we have a receiving lane over here. So in the future, near future, hopefully, UDOT will do that, which will alleviate a lot of the traffic issues. But there will be another lane added here to Bangor Parkway that will continue on. So it will be three lanes all the way through. Are you doing an intersection right where your mouse is somewhere? In addition to that, there will be another lane added here for right in only to the development. And then there will be a signal added here which will allow left turns in but not left turns out. So this will be a right in and a left in, a right and a right out. So they call that a three-quarter movement. So will there be a right out on 138 South 2 or just a right in? Yes, there will be a right in and a right out. Correct. So that's the challenge of this. And then there's going to be another access point here as well. But again, right in, right out only. So really, it's going to be a lot of traffic movement if you're coming in and you're wanting to go Depending on where you're going to want to go, you're going to be turning right every time to get out. Will there be any right out on 300 East? 300 East does not – I'm actually not sure where we landed on that, quite honestly. For right now, there's no – As far as I know, there's right in, right out only. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was just going to ask if we would take ownership of these lights now to, you know, work with timing and efficiency. So with the approval of the funding, so Utah owned Bangor Parkway all the way down to 138th. So now Draper City actually owns, although I don't know that it's been deeded to the city yet, but... we're gonna own from 150 East all the way down to 138. So we'll own and control this signal. UDOT will own and control this signal, but we'll own from this point here all the way down on Bangor Parkway. That was part of this whole agreement is this agreement for the city to take that right away from UDOT. And Scott, isn't there technology that UDOT uses now that signals kind of talk to each other and there's a lot better synchronization? Yeah. But what happens if we have some signals and they have other signals? Then will all of those signals communicate together? Yes. So we can time them so we don't sit at three lights? Yeah, we try to get away from timing, but there are time signals. But the communication between signals will definitely be there. Okay, great, thank you. Yeah. This is state funded project. So this was funding that was granted to the city as a reimbursement. So we don't get the money unless we spend it on these improvements and then we can get reimbursed for it. Any other questions for Mr. Cooley? SURE. WE HAVE THAT. I JUST WASN'T, I DIDN'T KNOW I WAS GOING TO BE ASKED QUESTIONS. I CAN SEND THAT TO YOU. SURE. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE A MOTION? MR. MAYOR, I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE APPROVE RESOLUTION 25-53. ALL RIGHT. MOTION BY MR. LOWERY. IS THERE A SECOND? I'LL SECOND. SECOND BY MS. JOHNSON. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? Mr. Lowry, how do you vote? Yes. Ms. Johnson? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. Ms. Lowry? Yes. Items approved unanimously, four to zero. Item number 10C is next. Consideration of Resolution 2555. It's a resolution updating the Draper City Tree Guide to reflect tree species, firewise practices, and other best practices. Mr. Redogdon, go ahead, sir. Thank you, Mayor and Council. I'm trying to be quick. This is riveting stuff. TREE GUIDE CHANGES. IT'S BEEN QUITE A WHILE SINCE WE'VE DONE IT. I HAD A RED LINE COPY IN YOUR PACKET, BUT IN GENERAL, JUST TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED, OUR TREE COMMITTEE HAS PUT QUITE A BIT OF TIME INTO THIS, ESPECIALLY IN SOME OF THE SUBCOMMITTEES. SO THANKS TO MICHELLE AND JANET AND THEIR SUBCOMMITTEE. BUT THERE'S BEEN SOME TREES, SOME SPECIES THAT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM PARK STRIP, SOME THAT HAVE BEEN ADDED. And that's just based on how they do here in Draper and Draper soils and conditions or other issues. And they were categorized by the park strip size. There was some organizing to make them easier to find by alphabetizing, stuff like that, and then adding some firewise stuff. So I'll just run through the changes real quick so that you can try and make heads or toes of it. They're all categorized in our code, 5-foot, 10-foot, or 20-foot park strips. So in the 5-foot park strips, this would be beneath power lines. Simply just change the name from Peking lilac to Chinese lilac, and then we added those three on the right-hand side that are all maples. So those would all be allowed to be planted in a five-foot park strip that's beneath power lines. This would be a five-foot without power lines, so a little more options. Again, if it's in red, it's just changing the species of maple. Box elder gets confusing. Some people think it's box elder or maple, but it's a sensation maple. just changed some of the names of those that were already in the tree guide. Like you can see, took out Japanese zelkova, it would just be known as zelkova. We plant a lot of zelkovas in Draper. But then we also added those four on the right-hand side, the hedge maple, sunset maple, the hawthorn, and the linden. I don't see anywhere where you plant the Siberian elm trees in the park strip. We don't plant them, but we sure grow them. They plant themselves in every park strip. Yes, but no, you will not find those on our list. Again, now we're just in the 10-foot park strips without power lines. Removed several of them. And you'll notice the burr oak that was taken out of the 5-foot is now found in the 10-foot, so you've got to have at least a 10-foot park strip to plant a burr oak. And part of this was for sidewalk heaving and stuff like that to eliminate some problems. This one is for... 20-foot one. We removed several of these or updated like Colorado Spruce is still allowed, but just clarified it as the Colorado Bruce Boose. And then several others that are now added in a 20-foot park strip. Pines and... And if you ask me what all these are, I don't have a clue, Mayor, but our tree committee does. And then... Lastly, we did dive in more into basically what you'd find in Suncrest area or those above 5,000 feet. We took all of those out and just said that they need to follow the firewise landscaping principles, and we have that on our webpage. Or if they're beneath the power lines and above that, they just need to be ones that don't grow 25 feet. We got a little more in-depth for those. If you have a five-foot park strip, which some do in Suncrest, did get a little bit more. options to grow up there, like the service berry. We plant a lot of service berries in those areas. And then again, in 10 feet up above 5,000 feet, a few more options for those residents as well. That's about it. It's mostly just taking a few away and adding some that grow well in Draper. And again, that was just at the request of our tree committee and their research and their knowledge of trees and what works well in Draper and what doesn't. That's the resolution before you. If I can answer any questions, happy to. Old Bill Colbert would be happy to see that Gamble Oak forever memorialized. You love that name. Yeah, indeed. Any questions for Mr. Ogden? All right, is there a motion? I'll make a motion to approve resolution 25-55. All right, motion by Ms. Lowry. Is there a second? I'll second. Second by Ms. Johnson. Further discussion? Seeing none, Ms. Lowry, how do you vote? Yes. Ms. Johnson? Yes. Mr. Green? Yes. Mr. Lowry? Yes. Items approved unanimously, four to zero. That takes us to item number 11, unless there's other business. Any other business by anyone? Is there a motion to adjourn? So moved. Motion by Ms. Johnson. Second? Second. Second by Ms. Lowry. All in favor of adjourning, say aye. Aye. Nay. Any opposed? One. No. The ayes have it. We are adjourned. Trying to make you vote, Troy. Go get my big gavel. For the record, I vote to adjourn should there have been a tie. I said no. I said no.