Good evening, everyone. Our study session tonight for Tuesday, June 24th is about our future road maintenance needs. And we are joined by our capital projects and operations manager, Jay Rowe, and public works director, Larry Nemo. And Council, well, let's let them get through the whole presentation first, and then we'll have time for questions. We'll do it around Robin. All right. Cool. Thanks. All right. We're going to talk about the PCI, what it means. And the question today is, does Council support maintaining a citywide PCI rating of 80? Next slide, please. hopefully I can say this to you. In this slide, we can see one of our software systems at work, and it kind of shows our network. I'll wait a second. Yeah, I dropped our lights a little bit. See it, we'll leave it. There we go. All right. Good, I can read. I think. So this shows the pavement condition index, which is the PCI, and it's a scoring system that rates the... pavement conditions from a score from zero to 100. It assesses the overall condition of the pavement through both hardware inspections or visuals inspections of a representative section. So that would be like between streets, basically. Pavement and streets represent our most valuable infrastructure and it forms a foundation here for everything. So we need to kind of keep it protected. Next slide. So most agency has some kind of pavement maintenance program. And if our roads are not properly maintained, they can, or if they are maintained, they can last up to 30 years in good condition. So, and we've seen that here. If not, their lifespan can be way less. And, you know, we need a good program with this strategic approach that extends the lifespan of the roadways. Next slide. So that one didn't come through great, but that's a famous picture there that we all know about. When we talk about pavement, we're referring to either asphalt or concrete. And as we know, the city owns streets in residential areas, meaning local streets are paved with asphalt here in Pasolini. So let's talk about what factors play into the lifespan of asphalt. So freeze and thaw cycles. as shown in this picture, and moisture infiltration is generally the biggest enemy. We're familiar with this scene, but as the water melts, it infiltrates into the rows and infrastructure, like the sidewalk, and the other, there's a little piece of concrete there, the cross pan, and that freeze expands, and we know what happens from there. Next slide. This one shows general wear and tear, so truck traffic, We've seen a lot more construction here, increasing amounts of delivery with Amazon and such. The picture on the right shows how rocks can be delivered very gently on the street surface, as we all know, and also damages seen from plows and construction equipment, garbage trucks, or just general spills, staining that can also eat away at the asphalt over time. Next slide. This one's going to show underneath the road there's utility trenches. If the soil or backfill, what we call, in the trenches is not compact or dense enough, it can show settlement. So this here shows how property drainage as well as the water can accelerate the settling process. Next slide. And another factor that plays into the lifespan of pavement is the what we saw in the last slide, which is the settlement. And this picture here on the left shows a storm sewer inlet. So this is what you see when you're driving along the road. And the green bars there kind of show where the road elevation is actually going to be in the future. And it's perpendicular to the structure, so over the pipes. So it's showing the importance of how oversight is very important in new permitting and development. And then the image on the right is a picture of what we call this upgrade and the surface below the pavement. The soils and materials there need to comply with our standards, which we really have enforced since our acceptance of the Castle Pine standards a few years back, as some of you remember. I do. Next slide. And this is kind of more of the same thing. The two photos on the edge were taken during inspections. I know you can't really see those on here, but there's some lines showing the repairs that need to be done by the developer or the contractors prior to us accepting it. Yeah, this is tough to see. The middle left one kind of shows a street before it's created and all the trenches inside. So deep utilities. And so this is our kind of our roads before the build. Next slide. So the number one factor for affecting the lifespan of our pavement is the maintenance of the pavement next slide so this is kind of just one example of an asphalt deterioration curve it's a graph it shows that if more money is spent up front at a cheaper cost the lifespan will be longer and less expensive so basically we need to give this expensive and great asset we have some good love right from the moment it gets onto the ground. And we'll talk about treatments coming up here on the next slide. So how do we choose what we wanna do, where we wanna do it? It's not as random as everyone thinks. Most agencies use a combination of hardware, software, and some human stuff, brain still, actually. and we rate the pavement and its corresponding PCI. So we use staff and consultants to put together a scope, which is based on location, quantities, and we make sure that everything's built right with inspections and... Next slide. This is how some of the data is collected. This is a street scan on the left. And this can be done all sorts of ways with cameras, Vidar or vibration sensors. or combinations of all of these. So we're recording data. This gets put into the information that's kind of seen on the right. So on the right, that's kind of a compilation of what the data set looks like from overhead on a rope. It shows distresses in the asphalt or the pavement surface, cracks, maybe potholes. maybe some rutting or everything. Eventually, this is brought into a GIS-based software we can use to help with analysis. Next slide. So this software helps us make informed decisions that we can back up with data. We always check and have many other eyes on the scanned data to make sure of its accuracy. And we spend a lot of time with making sure we are using the up-to-date pricing as well as all the treatment methods and recommendations of agencies that we were in contact with. I'll take yours, Larry. It might just be the signal strengths, too, in and on the mic. Where are we starting? Oh. Yeah, but it's all of them, so it wasn't going to make it. Just give it a second. I thought you were just crackling your voice on purpose. You're really nervous. It's my robot. I don't know. It's an incredibly clever technique to be able to do that. I know. Lost practice. So, yeah, we team up with a lot of agencies, make sure everything is kind of, you know, in the same thing, especially with MEGPEG, which is the municipal government pavement engineers council. That's a great acronym. Next slide. So how do we decide? So all these agencies, we collaborate. Our local neighbors, like Douglas County, we communicate. We make sure there's consistency. We attend conferences together. We use similar methods, depending on the road type that we talk with. So just talk loud, and the owls will then pick up. Next slide. OK, we're going to go through just the kind of treatments we use. So this one is basic. It's kind of the best bang for your buck. It's crack seal. And if you want to know the definition of it, it is sealing cracks. That's pretty easy. But this brings us back to the really main thing, which is water infiltration. And this is a really good bang for your buck because it's a cheap upfront cost and it puts the lifespan higher up for us. It's not the most pretty looking thing. But when we're talking about cost and efficiency, it's a good one. Next one is patching. Patching is a similar concept as crack seal. It's usually a larger area and has less localized damage. So patched areas can be where settlement occurred or other kinds of cracking that can damage large areas. Next slide is, these are just another treatment we use, slurry seal. This is a good one. It really does bump up that lifespan of our expensive asset here. And this treatment usually occurs about 10 to 15, 20 years into the cycle of the life of the pavement. There's a truck back there. You can barely see it. But that thing is spraying kind of a liquid, and it adds a small rock. And that stuff dries in about three hours. Sometimes it looks like a new pavement. And it's also a great bang for your buck regarding price per square yard. Next slide is when the aging gets a little bit further out, we use mill and overlay. This is when we scrape off the top layer with a milling machine and we add a brand new layer of asphalt. Now, this is good when the bottom of the asphalt is in good condition. I think this one's on Yorkshire. last year. And this will also bring up your VCI back up to a high number. A little more expensive. Next slide. And when your asphalt is completely dead, we do full reconstruction. So this is a picture somewhere in Glen Oaks. And, you know, eventually there's various reasons and the asphalt is gone, needs to be completely repaired, replaced. Next slide is a PCI. This is our PCI here in Castle Pines. So what I want to show here is this is our primary software called StreetLogix. And if we look on the east side here, we can see new development. That is all in green. I know we can't see it too well in here, but green. It's a class for you. Can you stay the course? I don't know. Just talk loud. Just talk loud. I'll put it in. No, you talk. I have it over. Yeah. It's just a regular microphone. So here you can see on the east side of the highway is along the I-25 corridor, the south place kind of near us here. That is green. What we're seeing here is very new construction. And with that being said, you know, our PCI average is reading pretty high at Castle Pine. So we are inheriting brand new roads. You know, if you look at that map, we basically have almost doubled in size with that southern part, south of here on Lagay, as well as the east of the city and future development, which you can kind of see on some of those roads. And on the next slide here, we're going to see what, you know, some of the land development might look like here. So this feature expansion is just showing a little bit more of this asset specifically to maintain as we kind of plow through it to the future here. Next slide. This is a slide, this comes from the Colorado Asphalt Pavement Association. They have taken all of the municipalities pretty much to participate in this and they report their scores here. So this is the most recent one. These scores are reported annually, and this does show Castle Plains doing pretty well. As you can see, this is our neighbor, some of the neighboring municipalities we chose, and we're kind of hanging in there. We're in the good range right now, but it is good to know, and it is good to know that there's a lot of agencies here and municipalities in the state that have a very low PCI. Some of them are even reading into the 30s as their average PCI. So they're seeing some trouble. In the background of this slide, you can kind of see this is an example of an 80 ECI sort of. Now there's just one example. In the background, you can see a little bit of cracking, a little bit of aging, maybe a little bit of crack ceiling. So this target of 80 is a very practical and it's a good target to shoot for. Next slide. So This is the staff recommendation. The pavement and streets represent the city's most valuable infrastructure asset, forming the foundation of transportation, connectivity, and long-term community investment. To ensure public safety and preserve this critical asset, staff recommends establishing a target PCI of 80. This benchmark will guide proactive maintenance, budget planning, and capital strategies. And our last slide is a preliminary 10-year projection of cost versus a 10-year timeframe. And to maintain a PCI of 80, this preliminary 10-year projection illustrates a high up-run investment, basically to maintain what we have. And it increases annually as the city continues to grow and infrastructure demands expand. So models like this come directly from our software. They're generated through numbers that are real numbers that we use for budgeting and materials and quantities in general. And this is just an important graph chart here to look at. So to maintain that ADPCI and training upwards for 10 years, we're going to be doubling our network essentially And that's about all of us today. So we can start a little bit of questions. Thank you. Great. Thank you. Go ahead, Jeff. The ADPCI, that's what are occurring. So I want to make sure I use the right phrase for this issue. Sorry. Average PCI? Our target PCI is currently 80, correct? Correct. So this is just, you're asking us just to keep the same standard in place. Right. All right. My next question will be held. Go ahead, Ron. One curiosity, one question. Do we own the ladder system that you use on the shuttle net truck? Good question. The stands can come in two different ways. We can... There's scans that you can get that are a one-time shot, and we go from there. Or there are systems that we're looking at that do keep them on the bottom of fleet vehicles, and they constantly measure PCI throughout the day. Each night, they actually reset and download all of that data. And then it's pretty cool, because after that, it develops its own PCI curve for our specific locations. And it gets, some of the stuff that we're looking at is great. The data that we have on this software is from a one individual scan that we get annually. So my question is, if an 80 PCI costs me 20 bucks, what is a 100 PCI? Well, it's 20 times a million. Is that even achievable? 80? No, 100. I would say that 100 is not achievable because the moment you lay down that, the surface, it starts to age. Okay. So it's 2% to 3% each year due to degradation of the sun, how high we are, all of that is immediately starts to get 2% to 3% per year. That's what's built into the software for us. Thank you, man. I'm going to be like Ron and have curiosity. It's not a question. And then a question. Thank you. My curiosity is, what would the PCI be if you removed new construction? Doesn't that kind of skew it when half the community is five years old or less? So you mean with the new development still? Well, yeah, because the PCI includes. Yes, exactly. Doesn't that skew? It does skew. So what is our PCI if you include that? Oh, you know, that's a good question. If you took all of that away and calculated the BCI on the old, you know, do it that way, where we would take out new development and run an average score without any development, I mean, you know, shot in the dark, we would be down over 10 points easily, though. I'm sorry, I'm never really asking you to quantify, I'm just saying that I think that's an inflated number, considering a third of the community is brand new. Definitely. So, I mean, I guess, like... be a little cautious of patting ourselves on the back for having such a good DCI relative to our peers when we have such new construction. Correct. I think that's part of what we're trying to point out here is that I think that data is skewed. We're inheriting brand new stuff, so it's showing us as looking great. But as that stops, we really do have to be careful and maintain that. And yes, absolutely correct. So my whole point of that was then maintaining to Jeff's point, maintaining the 81 is great, but there's still a lot of work to be done on the old stuff. Oh, yeah. There is. I don't know if that's a question. I agree. I was framing it as not a question. Deborah? Yeah, thanks. I started when we had roads that were at 40 PCI-ish. So I do agree with planning ahead. One of the concerns that we had with going with asphalt for our new roads and doing some of this new construction was making sure that we had the financial base going forward to do this maintenance. And that was the reason for our 1% sales tax and why I supported it. So I'm in support of this, and I want to say thank you for making sure that we maintain it, because if we don't crack seal, et cetera, we'll be back in the same boat that we were five years ago. So I'm in support, and thank you. Do we have any questions? I don't have any questions. So looking at... Slide number, oh, I did not turn mine off. Slide number 24, we see an increase every year, but with the amount of roads that's going on, our per mile looks like it's going down. Is that right? Our per mile maintenance costs should be going down with the amount of roads that we are taking on over that 10-year span. Just hold on for a second. All right. I guess the answer for that would be if you don't want to maintain the new ones and keep them up. I'm looking at that graph. Okay. Right? From 26 to 35, we go up by $2 million. Right. So we go up 50%. But when you look at the number of roads we're putting on, so our per mile maintenance looks like it would be going down. Am I wrong or right? Do you want to answer that? Yeah, so basically, as we get the new roads in, we're not doing the milling overlays and all of that kind of work. We're basically crack sealing. So in that one graph where it shows the... Okay, you know what? Let's just stop here. Never mind. Call me once later. And it shows the graph where the little green is up there. That's us using different techniques to stretch those roads out. You didn't answer the question. The answer is yes. Thank you. Yes, this does. It was a yes or no question. This does, absolutely. Yeah. Any additional questions? Deborah, go ahead. Oh, she probably left it up by accident. Okay. So I just had a question. When our contractors come in and do work, like Excel or Core or Parker Water or anyone else, and they cut into the roads, Do they restore it back to an 80 PCI, or do they restore it back to the current PCI of the road? Or to 100. Great question. Since if a contractor comes in, I guess it depends on how much of the street was disturbed. Let's say they're going to take up an entire van. So then what would... If they're going to... So I guess we would have to be... We do expect, per permit, we do expect contractors to come in and make sure everything is restored to at least their PCI order pattern. Usually it's better because it's going to be a new patch. So it's always better. And do they always have city oversight inspection after the work's complete? Oh, that's what I thought. I just wanted to double check. Okay. Hi, Chris. I just want to make sure that no other questions about this topic, because since I have a captive audience, I'd like to ask a unrelated but important to me question. Is that okay, Mary? I guess so. I don't know what the question is. Yeah, four minutes. Four minutes. Oh, it doesn't need to start at 6.30. No, we start at 6.30. Oh, yeah. So there's 35 minutes. 35 minutes. Don't take us down. Do not take us down. Yeah. I've asked Michael this and he explained to me the why. When I was coming here tonight, I was going to make our way on Buffalo Trail. There was one car in front going to Happy Canyon. There were eight cars trying to turn right, and we all waited for the one car for the green light. And again, I asked Michael this and he explained it, but what is the risk of having a right turn lane there and a straight turn lane there? We did last year. A project manager wanted up on us. How about we get an answer to that, because it's totally out of topic. Yeah. I know. They made those decisions on traffic. Well, but I do, I mean, I respect the disagreement. It's the topic that I've asked people to ask. People have asked me, so I do think it's something important to talk about. I don't. I'm not discounting. Okay. I'm just saying let's make sure that we get everything that we need for this first, and then you can ask it in between a break. I thought we did that. I'm sorry. That's fine. Yeah. So, Michael, go ahead. So, there were two things I want to just point out. Back on the previous topic, not right here on lanes. We'll come back to that one. So, one thing that I think is important for council to know is bringing – Jay on and part of improving our criteria is, I mean, he really talked about maintenance being a primary factor and the quality of the maintenance of the road. But I would go, I would step back a little bit and say it's really the construction of the road that has a huge impact. And if you look at, and this is tuning Jay's horn for this, if you look at the quality of the roadways that were installed prior to those approved, criteria prior to bringing him on versus the quality of the completed road now, we're seeing less maintenance required on the roadway now because that sub-base and that foundation is really built. So one of the things I want council to be aware of is that for us to assure that the roadway systems going in now are going in in very high quality because of the staff that we have. And then jump into the other end of it, ultimately on this graph here, this final one here, A COUPLE OF TAKEAWAYS FROM HERE. ONE IS, YOU'RE GETTING A HEADS UP THAT FOR THE 2026 BUDGET, YOU CAN EXPECT ROUGHLY $4 MILLION BETWEEN BUCKETS ONE AND TWO. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY, AND I THINK COUNCILMEMBER RAMOLDI ALLUDED TO THIS, IS WHAT YOU'VE GOT ARE, I BELIEVE, VERY PROACTIVE STAFF IN BUCKETS, MAINTAINING BUCKETS ONE AND TWO BECAUSE WE'RE NOT BEING REACTIONARY AND GOING OVER THE LEAD THIS YEAR. WE'RE REALLY LOOKING OUT FOR THE NEXT 10 YEARS AND ANTICIPATING What's the degradation of the existing roadway system? How many new lane miles are we going to have from the east side? Putting that all into that black box and being able to provide you with, from a projection standpoint, real numbers about what you can expect in the upcoming future. So that if you're talking to your constituents or just for yourself, they're big numbers, but you know that we're not... we're not going to surprise you with a 20, $35 million number. You know, it's, you know, it's coming in that we're going to be very thoughtful and intentional about the budget presentation or budget projection numbers for you. So just want to add those two things. Thank you. So on the ADPCI, we have the question before us is, is do we support continuing to keep ADPCI still as a council? And I think that's, that's what you're asking us. And. In the past, have we actually, in writing, said that 80 PCI is what we want to maintain the standard? Or right now, this would actually be something in writing saying that this is the PCI standard we want to keep? It's a study session, so no more. No, I realize that. I mean, in the past, have we already had this codified or whatever the right term is? Yeah, I'd have to go back and look. I know we've had the conversation, but I'm not sure what action... Because it was many years ago and then we did it. I'd be happy to find out if we need to put an actual motion before the council, we can do that. Or if we feel like we've already gotten direction and this is just validation of that, I'll let you. Okay, perfect. Thank you. So Madam Mayor, I'm happy to speak to that. As you might remember being on council about the same period of time that I am, we never were able to really put this as a policy. because we didn't have the resources. And the 1% had a sales tax revenue had to be used for construction and reconstruction first. So this is the first year that we're actually able to. So those who have been here in the past will recall that no, we have never been able to, and therefore we never did. I hope that clarifies it for you. Thank you for your feedback. Go ahead. My feedback is I'm cautious about this. The reason I mentioned before is because of the new construction. If we were to say that our standard is 80, we're at 81 now, so we don't need to do anything else because we're already at the standard average for the community. So I don't know what the solve is for that, but I don't think it's... Does that make sense? We're already saying we're already at the standard. There's no goal. I'm being facetious, but I think it needs to be more aggressive and to have a higher PCI for the non-new roads. That's just my feedback. We may not have this as a policy, but this has been the goal that we've had informally in place. I think just because we're in 81 does not mean that... that we don't have a goal because we know this has been integrated over time. And the goal is to try to stay at the 80 or 81. So I do think we have a good goal with this. And I guess maybe the question is, what would be the difference in cost to go from 80 to 85? But I'm comfortable with the 80 because I do think that that's what we've had. I think that's what we're planning to do. My guess is that's kind of a normal goal for most cities. Is that accurate? That's correct. to check it off at the end. That's correct. Okay. And so I'm good with the 80. Council members, any other? Jay looks like he has something to say. No, I can answer questions. Does anybody else have any concerns with... I agree. I think maintenance, like we talked about before, you know, maintain it versus let it go... I won't say the word. Go bad and then have to replace the whole thing and spend, you know, two or three or five times as much more money. Right. And the 2% to 3% degradation year over year, is that across the board or depending on where the PCI is, it may degrade faster than that? Depending on where the PCI is. So we run that through our system. We also can run what it would look like to maintain an 80 PCI. I think the main takeaway from this is if you look at the budget numbers for buckets one and two currently, and you look at that chart, it should be pretty eye-opening because... We are expanding, and like some people did say, the road network that we have is brand new. So we look great, but are we? So we do have to take a really good look at what we need to maintain these roads as they do age, and we really have to take care of them right away in the beginning. So it would be safe to say if we chose for one year to do nothing. our PCI rating is going to jump down significantly, not just a little bit, but a lot, because we're not doing work on any roads. Correct. Do you have any other feedback, comments? It sounds like we are in agreement that 80 is good. Okay. All right. Thank you very much for your presentation. And then we will come back at 6.30 to start our regular business meeting. Toby, I'm going to switch devices. So I'll be going out and then back in. And then for Zach, I'll do yet a different device. At this time, I was ready. Today, that's just give me a thumbs up whenever you're. Good evening, Council of Citizens and Staff. I call the June 24th, 2025 City Council meeting to order at 6.30 p.m. For a few, please call the roll. Mayor Ingerman, here. Mayor Korten Eubanks, here. Councilmember Mulvey. Councilmember Cole, here. Councilmember Salazar, here. Councilmember Blue, present. And Councilmember Hudson is absent. Excuse me, Mayor Ingerman, you have a little while. Thank you very much. Would everyone please rise and join me for the Pledge of Allegiance. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. All right. Next on our agenda is the approval of the agenda. If there is no objections, the agenda will be approved as presented. Hearing none, the agenda is approved as presented. We now have a public comment on our agenda. Public comments designed for you to share your thoughts and concerns with city council, but it's not an interactive discussion. If you would like to give a public comment regarding either of our public hearings this evening on tonight's agenda, please wait until the public comment period for those hearings. 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And again, although the format of public comment does not allow for us to have an interactive discussion, we love to have you here, and we want to hear what you have to say, and we really appreciate you coming and speaking in front of us. And then when you approach the mic, make sure that the green light's on, and then state your name and address for the record. David Barron, if you'd like to approach the podium, if you'll press the bar on the microphone, please. Okay, we're working. Hi, my name is David Barron, 7827 Buffalo Trail. I just wanted to come down tonight. I had an opportunity to interact with staff this week. I've been a resident for around seven or eight years, and this is the first time I had that opportunity. I just wanted to say, I'm not here to talk about what my issue was, other than that my interaction with staff was excellent. From the city clerk, it was very welcoming and directed me to the right personnel immediately. Staff jumped on it. I wanted to commend the assistant city manager, Charlie Smith, and Marcus Graves. They jumped on top of everything, and I have a lot of experience with city government, and I haven't seen this kind of responsiveness in any of the cities I've worked with. So I just want to let you know that your staff's doing a good job. Great customer service, and I thought you should know about that. That's it. Thank you. Thank you. We have no further personal sign-up for public comment. All right. Thank you very much. We will move on to our next item on our agenda, which is our executive session pursuant to CRS 24-6-402. You have a presentation of minutes. Oh, I apologize. Thank you very much for that. All right. Let's go ahead and do the presentation of the minutes. Are there any corrections to the minutes for the June 10, 2025 city council? Hearing none, the minutes are approved as presented. Now we'll move on to the executive session. So our executives, I move to go into executive session pursuant to CRS 24-6-402-4B for discussions of specific legal questions with the attorney who represents this public body for the purposes of receiving legal advice related to the Twin Star Settlement Agreement. Is there a second? Second. We have a motion and a second. Clerk, tell you, please call the vote. Council Member Blue. Aye. Mayor Ingerman. Aye. Mayor Bertrand Eubanks. Aye. Council Member Salazar. Aye. Council Member Cole. Aye. The motion passes. Thank you. So City Council will go ahead and exit the regular meeting online and move into the executive session meeting at... 6.35 p.m., and then we'll keep the city council staff that is appropriate for this meeting and will remain in this room. So the audience that's here, we'll have our executive session in here, and then we will open the doors back up for you guys to come back in to go proceed to the rest of our meeting. So we're not leaving you out there. We'll come and get you when our executive session is over. really different when you're ready all right we may compete the regular meeting at 6 59 p.m um next on our agenda is the consent agenda sorry yes um when we started meeting uh council member moldy was not a member so i think you need to announce that she's part of the meeting now And I'll reflect it in the minutes. Okay, perfect. Thank you. Thank you very much. All right. We're reconvening again at 6.59. And on our consent agenda tonight is a resolution 25-26, which approves a public access and utility easement agreement and accepting the public access and utility easement from North Canyons Development Company, LLC. May I have a motion for the items on consent? Mayor, I leave. I move to approve the item on consent. And is there a second? Second. We have a motion and a second to approve the items on the consent agenda. Clerk, would you please call the vote? Council Member Blue? Aye. Mayor Ingerman? Aye. Council Member Mulvey? Aye. Mayor Pro Tempubes? Aye. Council Member Salazar? Aye. And Council Member Cole? Aye. The motion passes. Thank you. Moving on to our next item, we actually had the Sheriff's Department giving an update, but during an executive session, they had to leave. So we are going to move on to the next item on our agenda, which is the public hearing for Ordinance 25-08 and Ordinance of the City Council of the City of Castle Pines, Colorado, vacating the Canyonside Subdivision, filing number two, First Amendment on second reading. As this item is quasi-judicial in nature for the city's remote participation and remote meetings policy, all council members attending virtually tonight will not be able to participate in discussion or vote on Orbitz 25-08. I will open the public hearing at 7.01 p.m. Our staff presentation will be given by Senior Planner Lisa Romhildens. Thank you very much. I'll turn it over to you. Thank you, Mayor and members of the City Council. You turned it off. Turn it right. No. All right. Thank you, Mayor and members of the City Council. For your consideration tonight is ordinance number 2508, which would vacate a subdivision flat known as Canyonside Bend in number two, First Amendment. Next slide, please. So we'll begin the meeting tonight with a staff presentation with ordinance. And after the presentation, there'll be an opportunity for questions and answers, both by staff and the applicant. We'll then move into a public hearing period with an additional opportunity for city council to ask questions, followed by a city council motion. And we'll finalize the presentation with deliberation and a decision on the application. Next slide, please. All right, before jumping into the specific purpose of this application, I did want to address what a subdivision platification is, the process and approval criteria. So as you know, landowners divide land by platting it into lots, tracts, and streets, and how that's accomplished is through a subdivision plat, or sometimes you'll hear us say final plat or just plat. If for some reason the subdivision plat is no longer needed, for example, the developer, the development falls through for whatever reason, there is a process to vacate it, and that essentially erases the plat and reverts the land back to the prior subdivision layout. A subdivision plat vacation can also vacate right-of-way and easements that was dedicated as part of the original plan. If a subdivision plat dedicated right-of-way or an easement, it is subject to city council approval, followed by a public hearing. So that is the type of process we're following tonight. And then the approval criteria include determining, number one, that the subdivision platification is in accordance with the city's comprehensive plan. Number two, that the subdivision platification is in accordance with the purpose and intent of the subdivision ordinance. And number three, the approval will not adversely affect the public health, safety, and welfare of the community. Next slide, please. On this slide, we have the vicinity map. The property subject to the subdivision plat vacation is known as Canyonside Filing Number Two, First Amendment, and it is just over 58 acres in size. It's generally located east of the intersection of Cross Canyon Trail and Canyon Forge Drive within Planning Areas Three and Open Space Area C of the Canyon's plan development. This replat established six mixed-use lots and two tracks for open space utility and drainage uses, and then right-of-way was also dedicated but not constructed for Sweet Creek Lane and Disc Park Street. Next slide, please. So for some background, I did want to touch on the related applications. So Canyonside filing number two, first amendment, the PLAP that is subject to this application that was processed to support a site improvement plan known as Canyonside BMC Residential 2. This was a 245 unit for lease residential project with a combination of single family detached homes, townhomes, and associated amenities. canyonside filing number two first amendment was approved by city council in december of 2022 and then the site improvement plan for canyon side bmc residential 2 was approved by planning commission shortly after in january of 2023 and following approval of the site improvement plan by the planning commission the city was not provided the required final site improvement plan set that would contain the original notarized signatures, and as a result, the Canyonside BMC Residential 2 Site Improvement Plan was closed due to inactivity and the Planning Commission's approval was rendered void. Since the Canyonside BMC Residential 2 Site Improvement Plan did not move forward and was closed, the property of the plot, the Canyonside Filing Number 2 First Amendment, desires to process this subdivision plot vacations since that is no longer needed to support that development. So they want to erase that and go back to the drawing board. On the next slide, there's a clip of the final plat for Canyonside, filing number two, First Amendment. So this was a replat. Again, it established six mixed-use lots and two tracks for open space, utility, and drainage uses. And then right-of-way was also dedicated but not constructed for Sweet Creek Lane and this Park Street. And the right-of-way, I have some text in red and arrows that's indicating that in the map. The subdivision plat would vacate these lots, tracks, and the right-of-way, and it would revert back to the original lot layout before this replat took place. The original lot layout contained three mixed-use lots, two open space tracks, and no right-of-way. If ordinance 2508 is approved, public access to disc parks should be maintained via a public access easement until a future replat comes in and dedicates the right-of-way along with the associated improvements for that roadway. Once vacated, the main change is really that the right-of-way that's going down the center of the subdivision is going to go away. So those lots, it's gonna change from six lots to three mixed-use lots, and then the lot lines shift a little bit for the open space trucks. Next slide, please. And then as far as public outreach goes, we did do a courtesy notice to abiding landowners and no comments were received in response to that notice. And then requests for comments were also sent to external referral agencies, including utility service providers, Douglas County agencies and the school district, the Canyons Metro District number two, Parker Water and Sanitation, the Cherry Creek Basin Water Quality Authority, Mile High Flood District, South Metro Fire and Rescue, the Colorado Department of Transportation, Reuter Hess Recreation Authority, Colorado Parks and Wildlife, the Centennial Airport, as well as the Canyons Owners Association. Seven agencies did return comments, but these were either technical in nature and reconciled through the review process. And then lastly, for the public hearing notification, there was a written notice to abutting landowners, a posted notice on the property, and then a publication complying with the subdivision ordinance. Next slide, please. So just to kind of conclude, staff does find that the subdivision platification complies with the approval criteria. And again, that is number one, that the subdivision platification is in accordance with the city's comprehensive plan. Number two, that the subdivision platification is in accordance with the purpose and intent of the subdivision ordinance. And then three, that the approval will not adversely affect the public health, safety, and welfare. Next slide, please. So as a kind of a reminder, the policy question before you is if city council supports the approval of ordinance number 2508, vacating the Canyon side subdivision filing number two, first amendment. And again, this is supported for adoption by city staff. And on the next slide, we have a recommended motion. And with that, I'm happy to answer any questions. Thank you very much. And as a reminder, Council, this is a time for clarifying questions and not a time for discussion or debate. Does anyone have any questions this evening? Council Member Bloom? Yeah. Do we need to vacate this for them to do a different plan in the future? Is that why they need this? Yes. So there is a combined subdivision improvement agreement and site improvement plan improvements agreement that was tied to the improvements that would take place with the subdivision. So since the overall site improvement plan fell through, those improvements aren't going to happen with this current developer, so we do need to vacate it to clean this up to process a new application. Thank you. Additional questions? No? All right. Thank you very much for your presentation. As per... City's remote participation or remote meetings policy ordinance 25-08 is quasi-judicial item and all public comment must be given in person. If you're attending in person and would like to give public comment on ordinance 25-08, please sign up on the board in the back room. And I erred and did not actually open the public comment with my instructions. So we open the public comment at 7.10 p.m. And Clerk Duffy, do we have anyone signed up this evening for a public comment? We do not. All right. All right. Then we'll go ahead and move into discussion. Council, can I have them? We closed the public comment. Thank you. Where did I miss that on my notes? Maybe I missed it. Okay. I was checking them off. All right. We'll close the public comment at 7 p.m. Thank you very much, everyone. Can I have a motion to begin discussion of this? Mayor, I move to approve ordinance number 25-08, an ordinance of the City of Castle Pines, Colorado, vacating the Canyonside subdivision, filing number two, First Amendment, case number SPV-2025-001. Is there a second? I'm on motion and a second. Councilmember Mayer-Proton-Eubanks, you gave the motion. Do you have any further comments? I don't have further comments. I think it makes sense. Thank you for the explanation. I have no additional comments at this time. Anyone have any additional comments? All right. Dr. W, please call the vote. Mayor Pro Tem Eubanks. Aye. Council Member Cole. Aye. Council Member Salazar. Aye. Council Member Bloom. Yes. And Mayor Ingerman. Yes. The motion passes. Thank you. I'll close the public hearing at 7.11 p.m. Our next item on the agenda, we're actually going to go back to the first item on the agenda since I see the Sheriff's Department is here for their update. I need to make sure there's no objections to go back to. Does anyone have any objections to us going back to the first item on the agenda since we're going out of time? Thank you very much. And I believe we have Captain Stanton here to give us the update. Sorry, I dropped that. We were in another world. We didn't realize. No problem at all. Scott Padry, who's one of the Castle Plains officers. We're going to mix it up for you. So you'll see the officers that are serving in the city. So let's introduce ourselves real quick. Hello, I'm Scott Hannity. I'm the day shift, east side Sunday through Wednesday deputy that works the city and been doing it for the last three years. Great. Thank you. And to the mayor and council of command around Stanton, Douglas County Sheriff's Office, thank you for having us as always. This is going to be a shorter for us because every quarter we're going to actually do the stats for you. So that makes it a little bit easier. understanding, I think, to the community and to the council so we can see what those numbers mean in comparison to this month's. And so today will be kind of short and brief, but if there's anything that's on your mind that you'd like to ask us, please do so. So I'd be happy to switch to the next. We do have a couple videos, so hopefully they work. We'll see. Katie, you'll get it. All right, perfect. The next one's just a map, and it shows districts and sectors within the county. Again, Castle Pines is number 52, so we'll switch to the next slide. And so if you haven't heard, we had some changes at the sheriff's office. We have a undersheriff who's been serving law enforcement for a very long time, very distinguished. Dave Walter, he's actually retiring. And Jason Kennedy, who has been at plenty of these meetings, he's actually going to be the new undersheriff starting July 3rd. And so that'll be a change at the sheriff's office. The sheriff is still Sheriff Darren Ziegle. And then if you hadn't heard, Joe White said at a previous council meeting, next two and a half months, he's going to be kind of and disposed. He's going to be at the FBI Academy attending that for leadership at Quantico. Clearly an honor. Very select for you to do that, so I'm a little jealous. But he'll be gone. His family's not too thrilled, but he'll be there at Quantico for the next two and a half months. myself and Commander Mike McIntosh, who is actually the commander, or I'm sorry, the chief of our special assignment teams up in Highlands Ranch, Special Operations. He'll be coming on to these also. So your meeting actually coincides with another meeting in Highlands Ranch. So you'll see us split those duties. So if you see the face change, it's not because we don't want to be here. They're just one of us or two of us doing that. So again, I've put other names on it just for your information so you know what that structure looks like. So next slide, please. So this one actually kind of hits at home, and I think it's kind of important for Castle Pines residents to know the resources that the county has set aside. Fire building is always a big issue, especially for areas like Castle Pines. They have a beautiful scenery with trees and things of that nature. However, with that always comes fire danger, and we've noticed that we've got a lot of hot days lately, and I don't think that's going to let up. And with the hot weather... that leads us with fire danger. And so if you could do me a favor, we're very fortunate in Douglas County to be at the commissioner's hearing. They specifically spoke about this program. It has met such high standards that at the Capitol, they're actually gonna do a presentation using our information as a standard for firefighting within communities. So you get a version of this, we're at Highlands Ranch here. Just recently on June 19th, a small grass fire behind the homes in Highlands Ranch started. this helicopter was there within a very short time frame and the fire was put out and no wounds were lost or damaged. So if you want to, if you could do me a favor and click the link and just give a real quick snippet of that. I would click it, but I just don't know. Technology strikes an interviewer. You know, it does. It's a hyperlink, so it doesn't work out. We can act it out. I think we want to see that. Okay, that's not going to play. It actually shows the helicopter come in, and it does a couple water drops within some homes directly at Highlands Ranch. Again, the field is directly behind individual, behind multiple residential housing, but if that helicopter did not do a water drop, this home would have probably been are sustained damage and even maybe not be here. So I guess the thing for the citizens is that helicopter is for anywhere in the county that has that, and it's just stationed over off the Moore Road area at our EBOC. And it's quick in the air, and if you have a good think about it, Castle Pine, if there's something that happened, that's an easy helicopter to get in the air and get in for resources. So that's important for the residents to know that. And Mayor and Councilor, because we send you that, you guys should be individually able to click on the link and see the video. Next slide, please. So sorry. Oh, there it is. There it is. You have to copy and paste it. Oh, that really wasn't working. And this is where they, oh my gosh, the thanks per second. This was on, I saw this on Facebook earlier today. Yeah, it's a Facebook link. Yeah. This is one that's actually on our website, but it clearly shows the significance of having that resource available. Now, everybody questions the cost to the county and what that really means. Saving one home in Douglas County, two homes in Douglas County pays for the full year of service for that. The other thing that's kind of nice with that is that other areas that don't have that resource can actually go ahead and pay for our helicopter and reimburse the county for its use. So it's one of those things that's available and it's a phenomenal resource, especially for the areas that we have in Douglas County and Castle Pines, a beautiful area. That's why people move here. We want to keep it that way. Next slide, please. Traffic concerns. So in Douglas County, as you're aware, unfortunately, we have issues with traffic. That's probably one of our top two complaints that we get within residential areas. And Castle Pines is no exception. We are heavily enforced, whether it be education or enforcement within traffic within Castle Pines, but we still have issues that come to our attention. And so we want you to know that we are knowledgeable of that. I think the biggest thing that citizens are having an issue with, believe it or not, is motorcycles later evening and racing up and down within Castle Pines. That's a big issue for us because that's a safety issue. We've got a lot of people doing night walks. We've got dogs and pets. We've got people that should be able to walk safely through the community and not have to worry about motorcycles racing through. Our traffic and long patrol teams have been assigned to this issue, and I can give you our word on this. This problem should be eliminated or at least alleviated here within a short time frame because that's a concern of us. It's not acceptable, and unfortunately, the riders of those bikes will be not very happy when their bikes are impounded and they may go to jail. We had a circumstance last week in Owens Ranch of a motorcyclist, high speed, and he found himself going to jail with his bike being impounded. It's not tolerated, so I want to work on that. With that, also commercial vehicle parking, I know it's another issue that's happening in Castle Pines. I kind of want to address that. You guys have a municipality code that covers that. Unfortunately, with every municipality code, there's always, I want to say, loopholes that actually cause it. Citizens, unfortunately, would hope that they would want to volunteer and comply because it is an issue for the community. It's an issue for safety on the roadways. It's an issue to make sure just the lifestyle, the cleanliness of Castle Pines. You don't want a whole bunch of large commercial vehicles parked in areas that they shouldn't be. And so we would hope citizens would come along with the disability codes that are here within the community. There's a reason for it. It's not just because Castle Pine says, hey, we should do this. It's for safety. People can't see around the vehicle. So we urge citizens to please, please, please follow this because what will happen is your vehicle is going to get towed or you're going to incur other expenses, whether it be a citation, a court appearance. It's not worth the hassle. Please, please, please. They asked the community to respect that. Municipality code is there for a reason. And I know that you on the board know that. That's why it's there. But sometimes I think citizens think, oh, it's not a big deal. It's just one commercial vehicle. And I'm not hurting anybody. It's on a cul-de-sac. Well, unfortunately, it does cause issues for safety. So we ask the police not to do that. So we went from that. On the commercial vehicle thing, we also understand that this county special cast of pines We hit it quite a bit, so the citizens are probably getting maybe a little bit, oh, great, they're doing commercial vehicle inspections again. We understand with all the construction and the large vehicles are going through, there's a lot of reasons why we want to make sure they abide by the rules when they're coming through Castle Pines or driving through the area. A lot of that's overweight, which damages the roadways. We just did a vehicle inspection on June 4th, again, in Castle Pines, and we sent that information to the board so they had that. But just a quick recap, there were 17 inspections that were completed. We do this in cooperation with the Colorado State Patrol. There were 17 inspections, eight citations. The laws are getting more strict on these commercial vehicle stops. There were actually vehicles that were taken out of service, and there were drivers that were taken out of service. So it's serious. Again, what gets concerning when we have motor vehicles that are driving in within areas, residential areas, that are commercial and the drivers don't have CDLs. That's concerning. And there were more than a few that were part of that inspection. So I just want you to know that's an important thing for us at Milton to work for Castle Pines and we will continue to make sure that we have those inspections within your city. And we think that'll help with some of the issues you guys are having. Next one. So these are recent. I know this is actually talking about Highlands Ranch. But I throw this out here real quick because it shows the Sheriff's Office responsibility to make sure for those that are driving under imperatability, specifically DUI, alcohol, and drugs. Douglas County takes this seriously. This actually is a recent. On last Friday, we had a checkpoint that occurred working with Colorado State Patrol and NSA. Hey, well, that happened on 470. It was 470 in Chambers. The issue is those individuals that are driving on 470 also drive I-25. They also drive your community. And we want to make sure that when they're driving, that they aren't impaired. And from that operation on Colorado State Patrol, there were 983 vehicles that were checked. There were 17 roadsides and 60 UIRS. The reason I mention and bring this up, Douglas County just received a state grant again for $65,000 for us to use that money to do DUI or high visibility enforcement within Douglas County. That means in Castle Plains also. So you're going to see some of that. So we'll let you know in advance, but it's important when we do those, we want to make sure that people are not driving the roadways that are under the influence. So that's why I bring that up. That's all I have on the presentation. I'm going to turn it over too quickly to, I know you probably have some questions. I'm going to turn it over quickly to... W. Haggerty, because he had some things recently like, you know what, we should tell the board this, because it's always those little things that the community knows that might help. One of the things we were talking about is today we just had an incident up in Highlands Ranch where two children left their electric scooters parked in front of the store and somebody stole. One of them had a tracking device on it, the other one didn't, but obviously as a community we're not thinking about these things. It's Bicycles, you gotta lock up. Everything you gotta lock up because if you don't lock it up, somebody's gonna take it. So unfortunately, it's a society we live in today. So any questions for me? I happen to be a part of that Hellcat crew. I'm part of the hand crew with the sheriff's office that goes out with that helicopter. And last year, you guys are probably all aware of that fire that was over Alpha Monarch. Tango Alpha was on scene just shortly after engine and brush fire. 36 were unseen, so we didn't need them. They weren't used, but they were right there. Well, thank you very much. Council will do round robins with questions. I see Council Member Mulvey has her hand up, so we'll start with you, Council Member Mulvey. Thank you, Captain Patrolman. I really appreciate your attention to a number of things. There was a very concerning incident up in District 1. involving individuals who knocked on doors very loudly in the middle of the night. And it really scared a pregnant mother. And then they went around to the rest of the neighborhood, the homes in the vicinity, and tried to gain entry. to homes and cars. I appreciate the fact that not only did you respond extremely quickly according to those that were involved, but you also took the ring and other camera video to help identify the person. And so I just want to say thank you for that. That's the kind of stuff that we really need to keep happening to keep our our community safe, and that's all I have. So, questions? Thank you. So, more of a statement of question. So, you mentioned the two scooters and Highlands Ranch. I'm getting concerned with the number of people. I don't know whether it's an e-bike or, I mean, they all, when I was younger, it was one of the mopeds. That's what they were to me. But in Highland Ranch, I was going to the store on Sunday, and there was a kid that, across the ranch, there were cars coming both directions, just zipped across, and both lanes of traffic had to maybe not stop, but slow down to not hit this person. I know it's probably difficult to understand what they're driving or what they're riding, but is there more that can be done to stop that? Because I only see it getting worse, not better. Not from the Sheriff's Department, just there's so many of them. I think these kids think they're like daredevils because they have their slick helmets on, and for all intents and purposes, I think they think they're riding a motorcycle, but again, I call it a little bit. You bring up a very good point. That's been an ongoing issue. I think the ease of purchasing these items, a lot of these websites will be Amazon, et cetera. They're really accessible, and the state legislation is, I don't want to say it's cryptic, but it's pretty detailed because of the different types that we have. We have not seen those issues necessarily for Castle Pines, but that doesn't mean that couldn't come down the pike. If you guys recall, the council recalls the death on the one wheel that happened in Hiles Ranch, that again, an electric vehicle. It is not uncommon for these electric vehicles. They're typically off-road or set for off-road, but they can reach speeds of 30, 40, 50, 60 miles an hour. They're not net-filled roadways, and quite frankly, in Douglas County, education will try to do education schools. We've partnered with a school system, and they're actually here in the next month or so, they're actually having an electric bike bicycle fair for parents to come down with their kids and do some instruction to talk about the dangers. And that's all the way up through high school levels, not just for kids, because what we're seeing is those young teens that are getting on these, they are, they're electric motorcycles, let's just call them that. They're not the mopeds that we had when we were kids, right? I'm dating myself. But it is not uncommon for even the bicycles to be able to do 35 miles an hour. And so a lot of those vehicles have a requirement that the riders themselves have to have a driver's license, and we know these are kids' rides. They're also required to have insurance and be registered in the state of Colorado, and they're not. So we try the educational approach, and we know that that works sometimes, but I'll tell you, we have issues in communities. Parents saying, well, what are you going to do? I bought it. It must be legal. Well, no. You bought your kid a death trap, and that should not be on a sidewalk. It shouldn't be on the street. It's not meant for that. And I think parents, I think education, just in general, across the board, these are not the normal, like I said, mopeds we had when we were younger parents. These are ones that are expected with high speed or they have high speed, and unfortunately, the riders aren't really knowledgeable of that or trained or experienced, and we have those accidents that occur. A generic story, I have in the neighborhood that I live, we have one, and I want to say he's probably about 17 years of age, and every time I see him, I'm like, oh my gosh. But he has a helmet, but it's one of the Surong motorcycles. And it clearly will do motorcycle speed. I mean, they're meant for more like dirt bike, that kind of thing. And he always rides them on the sidewalk, which is clearly against the law. And again, I'm not on duty, and it's outside the jurisdiction. But it's like, you know what, it's just going to take one person not paying attention, and they're going to hit you, and is it really worth that? So you bring up a very good point. We do have education that we try to get out to the community. And again, I can give that information to the board of that electric bike. Fair is coming up. It's open to the community. It's free. We should sponsor bringing things for the kids by telling us that kind of stuff. And so I can get that out. But that is an ongoing problem for us. And so we have not seen that in Castle Pines, but that doesn't mean that it's not occurring. Thank you. Do you have any questions? I'll spend a long curiosity question. I know that College Ranch has a spec op division. Is that something? So because of all the special teams, just because of our growth, and so Chief McIntosh actually runs that special operations. I mean, a lot of those used to be assigned specifically to patrol, but because of our size, we want to make sure that that was properly managed. And so we do have a chief that actually runs that now along with the command structure. Again, it covers the SWAT team. It covers HUD, CRT. HUD's going to be the homeless team. CRT's going to be the... They've been a response team that deals with mental health. And so with all these teams, you kind of need a structure that helps cover that. Just based out of Highlands Ranch, it used to be out of Castle Rock, now it's Highlands Ranch. I hope that answers your question. Thank you. Is there some questions? Yep. Again, not a question, but a statement. So I just want to thank you for taking seriously the construction zone on Castle Pines Parkway. And this is meant to be a positive. I feel like every time I drive, someone's getting pulled over. because they're either speeding or whatever reason. But the other thing I ask you to look for in my experience is I go 20, maybe 21, in that construction zone, and I constantly have people three or four feet behind me just tailgating me the entire way, like I'm not going fast enough. I refuse not to go faster, so I'm just hoping that you can look at that as well, not just people speeding through that, but tailgating. I hear what you're saying, and I've seen it, and I know exactly what you're talking about, and yeah, we'll definitely address that. I haven't seen an egregious following too closely in that 20, because obviously it comes down to the speed and the cost of the vehicle. So if I'm doing 70, obviously I need a lot more room than the distance I need to get when I'm only doing 20 miles an hour. But I hear what you're saying, and we can address that. It's one of these things, like if you're driving, it's like the car goes fast and then slows down a bit. like trying to nudge me, I'm like, I'm not going faster. It's amazing, and that's that. Because I'm actually in a, I'm at an unmarked county, clearly it's a postcard, and you get people to do that, and all of a sudden, like, oh, shoot. So, unfortunately, we live in a community, and again, it's a safety issue. There's such a hurry to get where they're going, and again, most people will then try to get away, but again, you push somebody to then maybe make an action that causes some type of accident that you try to get out of the way of the person who just has to get where they're going in an unsafe manner and all the rest of it. For us, we take that serious because those are the ones that end up causing people to do things that normally they may not because they feel they're being pushed in traffic. Now, you're like, no, they're not going to go around me. I'm going to make sure I keep the speed. But there are some, unfortunately, that may cause a panic reaction or cause them to speed themselves. I can give you an example of, and again, it's always interesting how this has happened, but we had a car who was upset because they were behind a truck that was kicking off some rocks on a construction vehicle, and this person got so upset, they decided to speed around the speed, instead of just slowing down. They decided, because again, it threw them off, they sped around the vehicle at an extremely high rate of speed, and they got around the side. Didn't cause an accident, but caused some close calls. Well, we happened to be there doing radar, and that person received a citation. And the response was, well, I had to get around this vehicle because it was throwing rocks. Well, there are other responses you can do. You can slow your vehicle down. You don't have to speed around at 30 miles an hour over the most limit. And so to your point, there are people that will maybe make extreme decisions based off of the traffic behind, the road rage, right? So it gets the person who just doesn't have that ability to deal with that properly. So we clearly see that as an issue. And so it will help us when those things come out, whether it be from the board, the citizens. The good thing about this kind of sheriff's office, we have an online portal that someone can actually fill out. Basically, hey, I have something to pass on to you. We see those occasionally come through for Castle Pines. And if that happens, we know, hey, during this time, during this area, we have an issue with speed. or we have an issue. I mean, there's unfortunately not 50 million of us, but if we know a timeframe that's occurring, we can then address that. So that would help us out. Thank you both so much for your time tonight. Great. I have one question for you and we're coming upon Independence Day for Fourth of July and fireworks. And what, can you just remind us of what the rules are and then also what the rules are if we go into a fireman stage as well? So depending on where we are right now, we are, so fireworks, anything that leaves the ground is clearly, anything that goes bang and leaves the ground is typically the rule that that is against the law. The ones that typically go by within the local fire stands at this point right now are legal. Now for the board, I'm glad you brought that up because actually we will be in full enforcement again this year. There's actually a special operations team. It's called Black Cat. I thought I told you about that. Well, see if I get a joke out of that, but they will be out in force. before and after 4th of July because we want to make sure that people are being responsible with fireworks. It's important because when we have irresponsible firework use, whether it be even legal ones, those are the ones that will burn your house down or somebody else's. And I can tell you of cases from last year where people lost their homes because of basically illegal and or irresponsible firework use. They've burned down neighbors' homes. So those are things we want to make sure that if it helps anything that leaves the ground, it's typically that will be illegal in Colorado. If a fire ban changes, I mean, you could have it where no fireworks are allowed. If that's the case, no means no fireworks. That's a little bit. That's perfect. Thank you so much, gentlemen, for coming. We really appreciate all the work that you do for our community. So thank you. Thank you. Thanks, guys. Have a good night. All right, we are moving on to our third item on the agenda, which is public hearing for Ordinance 25-09, an ordinance of the City Council of the City of Castle Pines, Colorado, amending Section 11-1-10 and 11-1-20 of the Castle Pines Municipal Code concerning maintenance of sidewalks on second reading. I'll open the public hearing at 7.35 p.m. Our staff presentation will be given by Public Works Director Larry Nipham. Great, thank you. So basically what I'm going to support tonight is we're kind of updating the municipal code to meet the standards that we now work with. When you look at the legacy side of the city, most of the sump pumps that are in the basements are hooked to a drainage system. You can actually see the manholes next, the little, they're valve boxes next to the manholes. That's a separate drainage system and that's where they tie the sump pumps in so all the water stayed completely underground. So that's, you don't see very many. I've seen a couple. I've done one in a legacy portion, so it's just not down over there. It was not needed because it's properly handled. As I first took over within the first few months, first summer here over in our community, six homes drained to this lady's house. And she called me and said, you know, what can you do? She knew what you needed. So we kind of dealt with that. And then at the same time, we were getting calls from the east side of the community where the sump pumps are kicking on and they're pushing this water across. So the way it's handled is we put in a chase drain. Well, the chase drain is now, when we have to do this, we have to cut the sidewalk. It now becomes a part of the sidewalk. So as the same as maintenance as far as snow removal and things like that, we need to make sure they take care of the chase drains, which is basically take a hose, shut them down every once in a while, make sure they stay, you know, cleared out and all of that. Our code did not handle it. We didn't have it in there, so we wanted to get our code updated. We decided to go ahead and do it. A lot of the Lennar community, we're going to be putting a bunch of them in over there because a lot of requests came in about that one. Lennar refused to do it, but they actually gave us one. the funding, all of that, we got to check for them. So we're going to be doing a bunch of them for people that have been requesting over there. And then the east side of the highway, I know Shane has done a bunch over there as well, when people request them, the largest that they would do them, that they give us when we do them. So they're just a part of it. And talking to other directors around the Douglas County area, This is becoming very common. I know one group has, they have all the metal pieces. There's a special metal piece. So you cut the concrete out, put the metal piece down, and you re-pour it. They actually keep the metal pieces in their yard. So then when they need them, they can just pick one up and go get them and all of that. So, yeah, it's become part of what we've got today, just the way drainage is done. And they don't do the pipes anymore. They quit doing those years ago. They've gotten into a lot of problems. And even when we've done milling overlays, Yeah, they're not great. The pipes, we've had to go down and dig down and do a lot of repair on what are basically the cleanouts. That's how they kept them clean. So it was just one of those that was a great idea at the time, but could not hold up. So this is the newest way. And what this does, whether it's summer or winter, in the summer, without this, we get a lot of algae buildup over the sidewalk. So we want to... Sorry. That's okay. We get a lot of algae buildup, which, as you know, is very slick. And then during the winter, it keeps the water going out, so the ice isn't building up on the sidewalk. But we need to make sure the homeowner understands this. These all come in by request. We don't go put them in anywhere. They come in, hey, what can you do about this? And that's what we come up with. So when they do it, The few that we've done so far, we've kind of given them a notification that says, please understand you're responsible. This just takes that all out of the picture. So now it's part of our municipal code. We're just getting updated to what we're doing today. So can't think of anything else. I think that was about it. All right. So do you have any questions for Mr. Nemovitz? All right. We'll go ahead and open the public comment period. at 7.39 p.m. If you're attending tonight's meeting virtually and would like to give public comment on ordinance 25-09, please sign up by typing your name and address into the chat feature. If you're attending in person, please sign up on the clipboard in the back of the room. If you've called into tonight's meeting, the clerk will recognize you by the last four digits of your phone number. Clerk Tuffy, do we have anyone signed up this evening for public comment? We do not have anyone signed up in person online and no one has called in. Great. Thank you very much. Go ahead and close the public comment at 7.40 p.m. We have a motion to begin the session, please. I'll move to the Board of Supervisors, 25.05, Ann Orvis for the City Council. The City Council's plans come from amending Section 11.1.10. and 11-120 of the council plans of municipal code concerning maintenance of sidewalks on second reading. Second. A motion and a second. Council Member Cole, we'll begin with you. All right. No further discussion. Anyone else have any further comments? Go ahead, council. Mayor Pro Tem, you're next. Thank you. I just want to thank the city manager. I had some questions about this earlier. And we had a pretty lengthy discussion about it and it answered all my questions. So I just want to say thank you. Any additional questions? Does Deborah have her hand up? No, it looks like you might have your hand, your real hand up. I was going like this, but I believe this is a public hearing and so I would not be permitted. This isn't quasi-judicial, so you can participate if you have a question. Oh, since we're in deliberation, yeah, I want to thank you for addressing the fact that Lenore is agreeing to pay for this because that was the big concern that I had about it. So I appreciate it. I do wish that we could have these things addressed up front. And it sounds like you're making sure that Shea does that. And I hope we do it in the future developments. Thank you. Additional comments? All right. We're done. You can go ahead and call the vote, please. Council Member Cole. Aye. Mayor Kirtan Ube. Aye. Council Member Bloom. Aye. Council Member Salazar. Yes. Mayor Ingerman. Yes. Council Member Mulvey. Yes. The motion passes. Thank you. I will close public hearing at 7.42 p.m. Next on the agenda is Resolution 25-27, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Castle Pines, Colorado, approving change order number three to the construction contract between the City of Castle Pines and RME. Limited LLC doing business as elite surface infrastructure for the construction of a roundabout at the intersection of Modern Boulevard and Buffalo Trail. Our staff presentation will be given by city engineer, Dole Grubinick. You are getting closer. Thank you. I'll turn it over to you. Thank you. Yes. So I'm here to present, you know, when I presented the capital improvement plan a couple weeks ago, I brought this up. We talked about it. This is the actual change order with costs in front of you tonight. This represents the work that's needed to put a roundabout there at Monarch and Buffalo Trail. This also represents the price efficiencies because of that, and the deductions from work saved. So really what you have in front of you is everything we discussed, but this is the control flow side of it. That's it. I really would say one more. I presented them once and we talked about it a couple weeks ago. I thought, and it wasn't really, you guys had not seen it yet and had a chance to really ask questions. My information to you is pretty straightforward, but I was primarily here to help facilitate any questions you have specific to the area or the project. No problem. Council Member, do you have any questions? Those are blue. Yeah. I know we talked about it before, but that was in the study session. So could you please talk about the process, the impact on traffic that's going to occur what our residents are going to see. Sure. Let me refer to that, what they're going to experience. Sure. So to help line things up a little bit, the new roundabout is centered. I'm sorry. I'm talking about both construction and post-construction. Sure. Once it's done. Sure. Is there an aerial with this? It's in our handout. Okay. So what's important here is that the roundabout is centered on the We were talking about which direction it is because this road kind of runs at an angle. We'll call it the north side of the road, opposite Buffalo Trail. The roundabout is centered on that. So we can basically build half of the roundabout outside of the current Monarch Roadway. The benefit of that is that the contractor, which is currently working south of Hidden Point, will be able to start hauling dirt and doing grading and getting prepped out there with any impact to traffic. Once the contractor, and actually they're getting close, flips to this next phase and shuts down Monarch from the north half of Hidden Point to the south edge of the Buffalo Trail intersection. So that's like 220 feet. They will go full bore in laying out that roundabout and getting as much of that roundabout clear as they can. And at that point, traffic... on South by Monarch will only be able to make a right turn on Buffalo Trail. Buffalo Trail traffic will only be able to make the left turn on Monarch, okay? So it's the same, oh, thank you. Thank you, Katie. You can see there, I don't know if it's, if I can just, I'll do the data. Yeah, just use that one. So when we are in this phase of work, The contractor will have complete access to this. And I was just mentioning traffic will make a free right. That'll be the only movement that Southbound Monarch can make. Buffalo Trail, the only movement they can make is a free left. So traffic will be in a free flow condition. We'll have to slow them down because it's an energy return. What that does, though, is that gives us a big portion of the intersection to do that work. So we will effectively have a little more than half the intersection and then all of this to do all of this work we can do. While we're doing that, not only will we put in, so this width right here is 22 feet. It's not enough for two lanes of traffic. We'll put in some extra pavement, three-ish feet, so that we can facilitate two lanes of traffic going north and southbound through the roundabout during construction. What we'll do is once this half and this is all built, we'll flip, we'll close the intersection of Buffalo Trail and Monarch, And now we'll have two ends of traffic pushed out on the new roundabout alignment. So at that point, we'll maintain north-south monarch traffic, which is the heavy movement. We'll set back and then we'll do the whole rest of this intersection. And then some of our phasing will get a little bit different because then we'll send one lane this way, one lane this way, and then we'll build the inner circle. And at this point, this roundabout will look very similar to the one at Happy Canyon Legay that has, gray concrete truck apron. And then the inner circle will be available for landscaping in the future. We will run conduits so that if there's a time in the future to run power and water, it's available. And also just, I know I talked about this last week, but I know I've been talking about this for six months and you guys saw it for like 20 minutes. A couple of the highlights about this, this maybe is what you want me to present about. So that was a great question. Thank you. Let's highlight the pedestrian movements through here. So one of the things about roundabouts is they provide pedestrian islands, refuge islands. So a user only has to cross one direction of traffic at a time over at a safe spot. So from a pedestrian multimodal perspective, this is helpful. The other thing that's kind of fancy about these is there's some debate when a single lane roundabout is occurring what to do with a bicyclist. So the current trend, and I say current trend, but I think this is many, many years of evolution, is that you get the cyclists out of the roundabout. So we actually built kind of a low-speed ADA cyclist access ramp and then a multi-use trail around the roundabout, and then they can reenter traffic again. So they're not in the lane. They're not – because they can't pick up the speed and keep going, so they actually get to stay out on a two-lane roundabout. like at Chase and Legay, a little bit different situation. There's more room for a single lane. So this is the trend of the future. So we actually get them out of traffic, they get around and they keep going on the way. We shifted as far as we could. We have very, very minimal impacts of the landscaping and stuff through here. We have some fiber optic and cable utility boxes we were able to avoid here. And then we make all these improvements through here. So we anticipate the rule, self-applied rule is we either can close Buffalo Trail or Monarch, but never both, because once this is closed, the detour options are terrible. So that's our criteria. So it works out well, because even if we didn't do the roundabout, we would probably have needed to have done some sort of temporary detour pavement to get traffic maintained in two lanes while we built and approved this intersection. Thank you. All right. Additional questions? Council Member Mulvey? Hi. Thank you, Dole. I appreciate you bringing this. I have a process question and then a detailed question and then a somewhat of tangential question, but relevant for me. The process question is. So this wasn't on our project list. And then we had a. study session to talk about it and then the contract comes to us so it seems like the part that council member blue highlighted was that we jumped to an approval to go ahead with it and then the contract and normally we have a step in between where we approve the project My process question is, is that normal? Are we going to see things that way again? Because it seems to take a step out of a process that we're used to. Council Member Mulley, I don't think this is going to be the norm as this was an alternative that was evaluated during the reconstruction project design team. of Monarch. And so the odds that we're going to have this exact type of situation coming up again, I think is slim. And we had an opportunity, as you've heard from Dole, to get substantial cost savings and make substantial traffic and safety improvements at the same time. So not a norm. Thank you. And Mr. Grabenik, I'd like to mention, if you could consult with the higher level staff and the attorney, perhaps, about the pedestrian refuge. Some of us who have been around a while might recall that there was a ordinance passed here in the city that you cannot stay within a pedestrian refuge, median of any sort, for any length of time. And at the time, it was intended to discourage vagrancy and loitering and solicitation. But at the time, I also became concerned that we need that pedestrian refuge. And so my question to you is to please check and make sure that this use of this as a pedestrian refuge doesn't conflict with that ordinance. And then for counsel to please, Ms. Mishau, to please think about whether... we might need to make an adjustment to that ordinance because the pedestrian refuge concept is something I do very much agree with. May I ask my third question? Is there anyone else? Go ahead, Council Member Moline. I want to ask, I see that this is $1.3 million. It seems reasonable. I very much appreciate the cost savings. But one of the things that my residents in District 1 have brought up repeatedly is that although this is ADA and a lot of other things are ADA, there is one sidewalk corner that is not ADA, and that is on Monarch and Serena and Tapadero. So if we're looking to make ADA adjustments, for safety of those on wheels. I wonder if we could attend to that at the same time, since it's just within a quarter mile. Yeah, we'll put that on our list. We'll get a look at it and see. We've got another one, too, I found on Monarch that I want to get to that as well. So we're already talking about those. But I'll add that onto the list. Mayor, thank you very much. Thank you, Mayor. So I'm not sure to whom I should direct this, but I'm not fully understanding the concept of a pedestrian refuge or an ordinance to stop vagrancy. Is there people camping on? I'll talk to you. Thank you. I would like to respond. May I please respond to that? Yeah. Council Member Mulvey, let me finish, please. When we get to comments and reports, you are welcome to weigh in. Or when we get to discussion. This is pertinent now. Isn't it pertinent now? When we get to discussion and debate, you can weigh in. Do we have any additional questions? Okay, discussion. I will wait for discussion and debate on this item. Do we have any additional questions? All right, can I have a motion to begin discussion and debate, please? I move to adopt resolution number 2527, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Castle Fines, Colorado, proving change order number three to the construction contract between the City of Castle Fines and R&B Limited LLC, doing business as elite service infrastructure for the construction of a roundabout at the intersection of the Monarch Boulevard and Buffalo Trail. Second. I have a motion and a second. Councilmember Salazan, we'll begin the session with you. I think this is great. I think it'll really help ease the speeds on Monarch. I think it's timely that we're doing it, but we're already doing construction, and it's a good cost savings for the city. Additional, Councilmember Mulvey? Yes, thank you. I concur. That was what I was going to say as well. I appreciate the cost savings and the pedestrian refuge idea is actually quite important for people to get across, especially to the park. And Council Member Eubanks, I invite conversation about that. There was an ordinance that was introduced by Mayor Radloff a while back. And I think, too, that this will quell. the speeding, particularly of motorcycles, that's going on right now on Monarch in this area. Thank you. Thank you, Mayor. So I've been hoping for a street light at that intersection for a long time. And I didn't consider a roundabout, but I am so excited that's going to be a roundabout and not a street light. The fact that, and Doug, you mentioned this during the study session, traffic not having to stop, but still slow down because it's 17, 18 miles an hour running around the belt. I think it's a perfect solution, better than my hope of the traffic light. The fact that it's being started essentially now will be done this year. I'm super thrilled and I'm very, very excited about it. And I think the 1.3 or 1.4 million is money worth it. comments? I would only say that we're going to have some of our older population are going to be really excited about this because they really struggled with that intersection getting out there and just reaction times and being concerned about the traffic. So this is going to be great to help with safety and help everybody slow down too, especially our teenagers. What I failed to mention is I really believe in going back to stuff with some statistics, but I really believe it's going to give people that live north of the Roundabout who are trying to go to Rock Canyon at 7.15 in the morning, it's going to at least give them a chance to get out into traffic, whereas today, they do not. If I can respond to that. Not only are you correct about potentially creating gaps in traffic, as you might remember, we talked about that people like Winterberry and maybe even the next intersection to the west At 715, when that left turn is so difficult, they can make a right, head south, loop around the roundabout, and go on the right way. You know, you mentioned the detour that we have right now. It's hard to want to go out of your way. But, you know, maybe those moms and dads will encourage their kids, like, hey, turn right. It'll be faster. And that'll help that road operate better, too. I'm excited. Great. Thank you very much. All right, Clerk W, please call the vote for passing Resolution 25-27. Council Member Salazar. Yes. Mayor Ingerman. Yes. Council Member Cole. Yes. Council Member Blue. Yes. Council Member Mulvey. Yes. Okay. Thank you. And Mayor Pro Tem Eubanks. Yes. The motion passes. Thank you very much. We'll move on to our last item in general business, which is... Resolution 25-28, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Castle Pines, Colorado, approving a settlement agreement and release of claims. May I have a motion to begin the discussion? I will approve the resolution number 25-28, a resolution of the City Council of the City of Castle Pines, Colorado, approving a settlement agreement and release of claims. Second. motion the second is there any further discussion this thing yeah i think this is a good thing to do i think this is a chapter behind us and allows us to move forward in the city um anytime we can settle litigation i think it's a good thing this is frankly at the end of the day all the lawyers make money if you have litigation but i should know that's not my money um so i think this is a good thing and um And I support this in our urge that we approve this settlement agreement. Council Member Mulvey. Thank you. I do concur in that point. You know, the public should know that ultimately we had three lawsuits and the result is that the original applicant that sued us isn't getting everything they wanted and nor are we making any admission. that the city staff did something wrong or made a mistake in doing this. Quite frankly, this was an aggressive litigant and we appreciate the insurance coverage that we had and that they made that type of choice as a business decision to settle this rather than incur additional litigation costs. It's one of those situations where the litigation is used to try to get something somebody wants and to twist the arm more or less to get a settlement. And that concerns me. But overall, it's a reasonable settlement. I am concerned about three lawsuits. And we spent about $30,000 on this when I think perhaps a different route could have been undertaken. Overall, though, I do approve it. And I appreciate the information we received on legal advice and executive session. It was very helpful. I don't have any additional comments. Nope. All right. Court Duffy, can you please call the vote? May I pretend you eggs? Yes. Council Member Blue? Aye. Council Member Mulvey? Yes. Council Member Cole? Yes. Council Member Salazar? Yes. The motion passes. You didn't call the mayor. The mayor ain't for me. Yes. Thank you. All right. We're going to move on to our comments and reports. City Manager Penny, do you have anything to report this evening? No, Mayor. I do not. All right. We'll go ahead and move on to our council reports. Council Member Salazar, do you have anything this evening? I need nothing to report. Council Member Holt? No, ma'am. Mayor Pratt, do you think? Thank you, ma'am. Just have one thing. So the open house last week, I thought was very successful. It was very well attended, but I, in addition to that, I was especially, for lack of a better way to put it, proud of city staff. Dole and Jay and Lisa and Donna and everyone was very engaged with the residents um answering a lot of good questions and i mean it's not my role or my position to be proud but it made me so proud that their staff did such a good job that way and uh thank you for all the residents that attended it was very very well attempted house member blue nothing to report house member movie All right. I would I would concur with what was just said. I hope you can hear me now. I have a little snafu there. Can you hear me? Yeah. Yeah. I actually think that it might be useful for us to in addition to having these open houses, but for people to our council members to. have district meetings. We've had them here and there. I know not everybody's interested in them, but I think that they're very helpful. Many other towns do it in South Metro area. And I think it gives us an opportunity to hear what our residents are seeing in an environment where they think that the council members fighting for them or listening to them. And so I wonder if we could start thinking about whether or not to do that. Again, I remember holding a few in the past and I'd like to do it again. So if the city isn't going to sponsor it, I'm going to go ahead and do it because residents do ask for it. So thank you for the open house. And that's just a follow up. My second item is, you know, you've heard me quite a bit talk about our transportation funding. I want to thank Larry, Mr. Nimmo, our public works director. He has really shown the kind of leadership that we need. He has come to us with a plan. And I would invite any council member who wants the detail on that to go ahead and get that. We continue to watch what the budget cuts are happening and to continue to advocate on all levels. And I'm going to be doing some of that as well this week. to advocate for surface transportation. That's the way they talk about it, as opposed to multimodal and pad crossings. There are some changes that Dr. Cogge is going to implement with respect to the TIP process as a result of some budget cuts. And so I know that Larry's on top of that. I've been working on it and I would invite any council member who's concerned about those things to have a conversation with either of us. The upshot of it is that if we can't get all the funding, we have to build that interchange ourselves with our own money. So it's really crucial. And then again, last plug. Don't just ask people to vote for it or to support us getting money. Tell them why the regional impact is so important and how it would reduce congestion for the entire county, especially on Crowfoot Valley Road, especially at Founders, especially in parts of the village. And it would really help people access their lives in their places. It would also reduce some of the congestion on Castle Pines Parkway. And so that's something I focus on here. That is what my role is and my liaisons. And so thank you for ensuring to think about those things when you do talk to other council members from other towns, I mean. And I have nothing further. Thank you. All right. I just have a couple of things. The open house, we have another one on Wednesday beginning at 5.30, I believe. Is that correct? 436. 436. Okay, thank you. I just want to make sure we titled that again because we had such great participation and lots of happy residents. I wasn't sure what the reception was with all of our road construction that's happening and we really didn't have unhappy people. It was great to talk to them, hear them. And then we've had two great... um community events too with food truck frenzy and also the concert series in the park and i cannot express how many people were there the field at coyote ridge for both these events were covered like humans everywhere it was it Especially the concert series, I was not expecting to see so many people. And it was a really popular event. So staff has done an excellent job putting those on and in partnership with our volunteers in the chamber. And the concert series was really... really popular and people didn't want to leave. So it was, it was good. Jolene did a wonderful job and I just want to say thank you. We also had a great kudos email from Claremont Estates and Huntington Ridge to the staff. So I just want to say thank you to, they specifically called out Larry and Michael for helping them with the signage that they had in there and the landscaping. And they just were really appreciative and thankful. One of the communities has never had a sign before. So they were really happy and wanted to say thank you. So that is all I have for us tonight. We are going to adjourn at 8.08 p.m. May I be recognized? Excuse me, may I be recognized? Council Member Mulvey? Yes, may I be recognized? Do you have something further to report, Council Member Mulvey? I do. Ties in with what you said. I think it's very positive. Go ahead, Council Member Mulvey. Thank you, ma'am. I want to share with you that when I was working the elections, which I've been doing for this election judge, there were several other workers who specifically said how much they loved the concert, like exactly how much they and they didn't know where I was from or what I do here in government. So it was really it really made me proud. And I think that. one of the things I want to share is that it was the band, that particular band, that they liked. But I just thought I would add that because I forgot earlier. It was great. Made me proud. Thank you. All right. We will adjourn at 8.10 p.m. Thank you, everyone.