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01-12 Meeting: Drainage Board Officer
Nominations and Project Updates
2026-01-12 08:59:42
All right, good morning. If everyone would stand for the pledge, please.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the republic
for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
Okay, I’m going to open this Monday, January 12, 2026, drainage board meeting.
And I need nominations for the drainage board president.
I'll nominate Brian Lewis. I’ll second it.
Alright. I’ll move to close nominations. Passes 3-0. You gotta ask for the vote. Oh.
What do you want me to say? Do I have a vote on that? Do I have a vote on that?
Okay. Passes 3-0. Or yours.
And I’ll open up the nominations to the Vice President. I’ll nominate Rick. I’ll second
that. Closing nominations. All in. Passes 3-0. Okay. So Seth.
We’ve got a lot today. So we’re gonna start with Matt Strater. He’s got an update on
the 5-5-2-1 paintball title that he wants to share with us. We’ve talked about this
several times in the past three, four, five years with Matt and his father. Matt, I’ll let
you go ahead and give us an update, please.
Paul Slusher was coming in to take a question. I’m not, I won’t read our plans word
for word with the old tile you’re failing or not on grade. We want to replace that with
a new tile and with a new tile to have it kind of upgraded to a bigger size as well to
handle some that’s coming out hard direction in that watershed.
So I’ve laid that all out here on my kind of up-to-date mode, I’ll call it. We visited with
all the landowners that have the acreage in the watershed. So some of us, like we’ve
got a majority of it or a chunk of it ourselves. And then you can see the list of what
they had in there and kind of divided out a cost that we had.
Paul Slisher, he’s worked on this, kind of make a game plan for that over the last few
years. So I told them all, like, if we did this on a good basis, what the cost looks like,
what we got to do. And I’ll come back to the costing in a second. But anyway, at the
end of the day, the landowners are always participating with it. We want to make

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sure this can move forward to the point I ended up prepaying the tile last December
just to lock in our pricing and stuff like that.
So I know the city is on board for helping us a big chunk of this, too, because we
don’t want it to be an 18-inch level. I do have a map, and you can zoom in or
whatever that I did. just as a quick reference see you can see like called on the
bottom of the map there tile starts.
and i’ve got it kind of red dashed out because it’s essentially already file training
anything there so then it comes up to where that green line starts so basically the
green line would be the new tile would be 18 and by the field there the 24 inch kind
of where that first goes as a 24 inch.
across and then to the open ditch the old tile is kind of a long side of that and i’m
not sure if the new tile will be on the left so the old tile is there. or maybe so anyway
the gist of what would go in as part of doing this so you can see the blue lines.
and the and everything i got laid out in the arrows is kind of the way the water via
the land so you can see the problem but at the end of the day we want to abandon
the old tile south of us israeli only did two great time by the doing and we
abandoned that we’ll essentially use that wetland as a and we would start at the
south side of that intersection almost so that.
if for some reason we ever have to tie in more tile or water to drain, We don’t want
it coming over the tiles on it. So the only person I have with the Dillon family, they
don’t have to bless it to abandon it. And I can’t imagine why they would strike and
that that tile actually goes to you.
So if they were gonna ever do any tile, it would make more sense to.
Have they done anything that you know of.
Have they what.
Has Dillon tiled anything to that ditch just south of the picture.
Not in that particular field, but there is like a 20 inch tile that ties in that ditch into it.
it kind of hits under 25 on the south side of the peterson property where it’s fenced
in.
so it goes east but you don’t have any going forward yeah i don’t think i mean
anything that.
goes north you run out of fall once you get to that where the red line is right okay
he was asking about that killing yeah basically all that field will drain to their ditch,
the whole thing will go to the dish that’s on the farm if they trick that they tile it,
yeah but a lot of it goes that way right now anyway it really does about the only

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thing that doesn’t where it is that little patch and that’s just because it can’t that’s
just that’s the one yeah yeah but most of their field does go to the ditch on the farm
yes.
so we’ll check that watershed but make sure they know that even if they sign off on
it they’ll still be in the watershed at least for that corner, so there’ll be a little that
they will pay into on it because you go back and set on maintenance.
yeah they might shrink their watershed correct three to five acres instead of 50. and
if you.
don’t want them to pay on the tile that’s fine but they’ll still pay a little on
maintenance.
when it’s all said and done i mean let’s say worst case scenario if the county and or
dylan square that way i’m not sure if it would double this but it would be a lot of
dollars to them, versus if you just tiled that area to that we have a lot less so anyway
i um i just wanted to kind of give a layout of that give a our plan on what we were
doing i wanted you guys to have a.
record what i typed up so then a couple things i just wanted to ask to make sure like
like i i will have like the landowner sign this acknowledge our plan like so we have
something. That way, Paul would ask them to say, yeah, it’s fine. Like, do you need
anything else besides that? Any of the things? Because my intent is, once this is
painted, to turn it over to the abandonment altogether.
Because the new tile will get connected. Like, if there’s old tiles connected to the
new tile, it’ll be connected to the new one. And there’s no point in maintaining it.
And everybody you’ve talked to is good with abandoning the old. I don’t know why
they wouldn’t be. So, if you get through with the project, once it’s done, come to us.
Give us what, you know, Paul did, where he’s done, size, et cetera. And then we’ll
petition to put this one on maintenance. We’ll petition at the same time to abandon
the old. And if that all goes through, we’ll just carry. I’ll talk to Kathy or Jen. And we’ll
just transfer the funds from the abandoned over to the new one, because it’s going
to be the same watershed, same account, same people, and continue on.
How much money is in that account, do you know.
What number was that? I know it’s the Haynes wall.
It’s $551,000.
$551,000. Right now there’s about nine in it. But that would be used for the
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Yeah, and we could, because he’s down here, to help with $10,000. If we did that,
we’d have to have a hearing on that or anything from the watershed people to be
able to use the money on that funds for that project. I’m just a question.
Yeah, I knew we had funds in there. I knew it was for maintenance. No one’s ever
committed to doing anything with it for this project. So, you know, my next
question, when we were here in the spring, I know John was here talking, discussing
the road cuts, like, we didn’t, at the time we didn’t know we would need to start that
on the south side of what happened, why we need to sew the fiber down it, and
then we’ll have a road cut to help cover that.
What would you want them to help with, just sawing the road, or.
Either doing it, or helping pay for it, or whatever, I don’t know what they’re, you
know, if we don’t have to, if we don’t have to, like, toss it out or whatever, it never
reduces the, knowing, knowing as well, like, we want to help contribute to it. If they
can’t, and I understand, I’m just putting it out there. John, thoughts, concerns.
This is a county main. The only difference with this is it will usually do a reconstruct.
It’s one that’s already there. They’re doing this on their own, not going through us. I
do this the same, but it’s up to you guys and John.
So you’d want still, you’d want Paul to cut it, and you’d work with him? Is that what
you’re telling me? What are you telling me.
Personally, I’m curious.
Both of them. Meridian’s going to be a really deep one. Meridian, we’re probably
going to be down there at 12, 13 feet now. 100, I didn’t survey that one. It won’t be
there as deep, though. But, like, there at 100, that’s really a benefit to the county
because if we don’t take it to the south side, when we get them 5-inch rains and big
rains, water’s going to flow across the top of the river.
It’s got to go to the south side. Yeah.
Yep.
We got to go to the south side. So, you okay with that agreement? Would you be
okay with that agreement? Yeah, that’s consistent with what we… Would that be all
right with you, Matt, or is that what you were thinking.
Any help at all. I kind of have a worst-case range, like if we have everything or if
they can help out and we can save some money. And I told all the landowners I
talked to, I said, first case, like, we’re looking at best case if we get extra help. And,
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I did get asked that question a few times as far as I said I’m not I’m not sure and I’m
not banking on it but because by doing this now we shouldn’t have any
maintenance for quite a while so you’re right there’s 9,000 in it brings in on a wide
on the annual assessment here I should so let’s take up 500 times three brings in
1500 give or take a year 1800 a year I’m sure we’ve got it to collect this year if not I’ll
be triggered again it’s their money going into it this is your decision.
we will still trigger to collect the next X amount of years until we get to that four
year threshold this will be up to commissioners if I don’t know the age of the tiles
I’m just saying if it’s available today and if it’s not it’s going to stop us from moving
forward, Right.
I'm okay with using it. I don’t know if the other two. I’m okay with using it. Like you
say, there shouldn’t be no maintenance on it. You’re going to collect $1,800.
So there’ll be about $10,000 give or take in it, and again, it’ll still trigger $27,000,
$28,000, $29,000, and $30,000 at least.
And I agree. I mean, I think we can, you know, I guess my question was earlier, you
know, are all these people you have listed here in that watershed, is it a big
watershed or is that.
No, that’s everyone. I don’t know what they’re listed in there because they should
be. We have a tile that goes from their field down across ours to this tile.
And that’s this orange line.
And they agree. And they agreed they need to be in it, and they want to help pay.
Well, I guess I was saying that, you know, if this is all the watershed, and then
everybody’s agreed to do this, then they’re not going to complain about spending
the money to help. I mean, because you’ve got, it’s your money that’s in there. It’s
not our money. You guys are paying into it. So I’m worn out.
Okay, so we will send those funds back to the job. You can prorate it out. And then,
like I said, it looks like I saw somewhere August completion, give or take.
I think I’ve talked to the landowners. If they’ll let us go this summer, we’ll try to get
started on it this summer. But they may not let me start until after the summer.
Well, you know, once you’re done, just keep in contact with us once you say you’re
done. And then we’ll have you come in petition to set that one up, abandon the old.
In the meantime, I’ll talk to the treasurer, make sure we can just. Hopefully, just not
even move the count, keep the same number, everything. Everybody’s good with
that, and we’ll continue as it is. Whatever makes sense is fine. Like I said, I plan for
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I know. This is where we have questions, but at the end of the day, it’s that.
Holly, you looked over this. You don’t see any patterns or anything? No, I don’t. No,
okay.
No, right now, it’s all private. It’s all… There’s nothing in us. He’s just giving us an
update.
How many of you use the funds.
Holly.
Well, they’re in maintenance now, right? Correct.
How many funds have you used.
Correct.
And maybe you just buy a grant. toward the scene. Whatever whatever works out.
So let me ask this for do that, How long you will you wait a year to come back if you
miss a lateral hook it back in? What’s that? No, let’s say you miss a lot off the old tile.
Yeah, What’s what’s your kind of you know saying? Yeah.
We’re gonna get all of them on one side of it that league. Yeah, and then probably
with that I mean, I’ll look for the obvious spots, you know, and see if I can find them,
you know by digging on the other side of it so.
Typically, I mean we always wait at least 90 days for County to, Do the final payment
in case of lateral throws you do have a summer and it doesn’t rain in Fulton County
doesn’t matter anyway It’s not gonna expose itself. Yeah, so.
You gotta get it all cut back and hook it up.
Well, let’s commit to 10. If you guys want, that would be a little extra left in there to
let us start building up and get a little case of mislaterals expose themselves in the
next two or three years.
Okay, I’ll make the motion to use $10,000 to send that account on this tile.
Okay, is there any other questions from anybody? All in favor? Motion carries 3-0.
Appreciate it. Thank you, Matt. Yep, there you go. Okay, it’s 9-18. We have a hearing
for the 580, the last dollar tile, arm number 2, delays of maintenance from $1.38 to
$5. We’ll put this hearing on.
I'll go ahead, and if you guys would state your name and address, please. Okay.
Questions? Concerns.

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Just under 15 acres in the shed. Okay. I think that would be 15 times 5 to 134. So,
what am I not seeing.
You said you’re at 15 acres right now.
Yeah.
If you have 15 in the watershed, it should be $75. Correct.
Okay.
So, there may have been a calculation error on that.
Okay. Yeah, I read that, by the way, where it’s $100 and maybe something else.
No, it’ll be $5 max. And the reason we’re doing this, so this is the green line here is
the watershed for this tile. There’s 90 acres in this watershed. it’s a low low area to
collect on and if this tile fails anywhere we don’t have the funds in it to, replace it
without going into the gdi and pulling out and all that so we’re just trying to prepare
ourselves if and when it does fail we get the contractor immediately get it repaired
and most.
times now with these suck holes being if they’re clay and in this low area here it’s
probably not just a suckle it’s probably 20 30 feet that’s going to have to replace
when it starts adding up in cost so that’s why i’m proposing on this to raise it up to
five bucks that would give us. 90 times probation 1800 in the account to go in to
repair if we need it done and like i explained earlier if we get above that and if we
get four times the limit we don’t collect anymore so.
you said that.
So if there’s a suck hole in, you’re talking this area right here, in the low ground.
Looks like you wouldn’t allow trees to go in.
We hope not to, but we can’t contain all of them. So if the trees, so let’s go back to
that right there. Let’s say there’s a suck hole here, and these people on the east side
of the road are having trouble because the trees have come in and collapsed that
down. We’re going to rip those trees out, and especially if there’s multiple growing,
we’ll probably send the contractor from all out and try to replace everything we can
to eliminate that from happening so we’re not going to go back every year to do
another spot.
So at this point, this is just for we’re ready to go when the time comes, because I’m
sure the time will come, especially now that you’re telling me there’s trees digging
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so are you good with it yeah okay do we have any that there was an objection letter
but i think it.
was what did you send a letter in no i did not okay okay nope we’re good yes
anybody else want to speak on that this is nancy yes go ahead state your name to it
please nancy smith.
thank you did you write the letter then yes okay go ahead yeah that wasn’t what i
know about.
as far as you want to do anything right now again we’re trying to put the cart ahead
of the horse here that way when the time comes we can get the horse in action so,
we don’t have anything right now nobody’s called and complained yet, But we’ve
been, so we’ve got all these ditches listed on here and a lot of them are, we have
one, several that are like 38 cents. They’ve been there forever and once we hit it, we
can’t, it just takes so much time to build back.
So instead of going to the GDI, which is the General Drainage Improvement
Account we have, we’re trying to keep everything locked up, ready to go so we can
keep moving on these ditches out of their correct funds. So again, nobody’s called
in on this that I know of and complained about it, but coming through this low
ground and now that we know there’s trees on it, there could be a time where this
starts really flooding out upstream, can’t get in, and because the tile’s failed. And it’s
our job to make sure the tile works the best we can.
So at the current rate, what is this tile taking in a year.
Currently it’s $1.38, $1.38 times 90, you’re looking at $110, $120 a year.
That’s all it brings in a year. Five years, probably take five years before you can even
call anybody up to do anything.
But most of the time it takes 500 bucks for a contractor just to drop a machine.
That’s what he’s saying. He needs to get a little bit more money built up. If there’s a
suckle that comes in, you guys call him and say, hey, I need a suckle, and then he
can come out and pay.
Because currently we don’t have enough funds in there to pay for any work.
And realistically, like I said, if we were going to pull those trees out, it’s going to take
a little time. We’ll probably have, you know, we just let them lay, we’re going to
move them out, plus replace tile. You’re probably looking at a couple grand easily.
And right now, if we go to $5, I think that puts us around $1,800. So we would still
probably go into the hole and pull from the GDI, but I guess it’s a quick recovery to
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One more question. Is that 30-inch tile.
This is, I do not know what this is, to be honest.
That’s okay, that’s just what my memory told me that I thought it was a 30-inch.
If that’s a 30, I’d be surprised, because that’s huge, for this small watershed. I bet it’s
more of a 12, would be my guess.
You’re right. No, you’re exactly right. Sorry. Years ago, that was just an estimate.
Maybe they were trying to scare everybody. But sometimes it does take a large
time. Thank you.
Yep, you’re welcome. Did that answer anything you have, or do you have anything
else.
Well, if I understand correctly, what you’re talking, building up money, do some
work on that.
Correct. Okay. If somebody calls in.
Yeah, because nobody is.
Only if need be, if something were to happen, because right now we don’t have
enough in there.
And I went down to the office and said that the maintenance report and the
scheduled assessments was ready for public inspection. And they said, no, you had
to wait until you came.
Right, because they have to approve this raise of maintenance first before I can
present it, because it’s not set in stone yet.
So right now the account brings in, the tile brings in about $130 a year, just shy of it.
And we are still currently $472 in the hole. So if we keep it as it is right now at $130,
you’re four years out for us to repay the GDI and then build the account back up.
Again, just the $5 will get us there quicker and then have more in the account to go
back and repair that. The GDI is a separate account each county has for
reconstructions.
Any major work.
Any major work that we can pull from and have to always build back up before we
can build the account back, like taking a loan from a bank sort of thing. We try not
to use that because in case we have reconstructions like what Mr. Schrader was
talking about just a minute ago, if we do that through the county, we’ll pull from
that first to pay the contractor back, and those are usually a couple hundred
thousand dollar jobs. And then the landowners have a year to pay us back.

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So there could be that year that the GDI is very low, and then if that happens, God
forbid it goes negative, the county’s got to take a loan and then start paying. So
we’re trying to take all the individual counts here, the tiles that cannot function on
their own without dipping in now due to what little they bring in and the rising cost
of labor and material, and try to get that on foot to where if something happens,
we’ve got to get a good threshold to get in there and at least get a good chunk
done before we have to go do it.
But I can send you all the final stuff in the mail if you want after this, after they
agree on the price.
I would like to have it.
Okay.
Like I said, I don’t understand. It says where can somebody tell me where this mass
filling ends.
Yep. So the. picture here behind you which everyone look at this is the masteller
open ditch this white here is the tile supposedly that it’s drawn in years ago years
ago before my time it’s usually off a little bit but it’s very close at least so yeah that’s
what this white represents here is the tile, see it’s got a couple of branches come off
to it uh a picture of it yep absolutely.
absolutely the watersheds again were created by the surveyors so the screen line
here that you see is the watershed line and typically what’s done i can’t do on this
computer but, the surveyors go out the county surveyor and now you can do it with
an elevation there’s a tool on here where they got the lidar when they flew this of
the topography of the county and then i can sit here and start picking elevations
and seeing basically how the.
ground is laid out and once you get the break points they’re hills so my guess is
right here this is probably a bit of a ridge to where this this is the top of the hill so
water’s probably going this way now then coming back this way and if i could let’s
see if i can do this you know if, i can get elevation the highest number is probably
around this green line so let’s say it’s 860 elevation as i go each direction of it it
should start falling to like 859 858 before it shows.
where the water flows so that’s how we do it now these waters and again these
watersheds could be off my hair but i know downtown did a lot of this before we
even point ears in here as predecessors.
quite a bit the other questions concerns.
Any type of breakdown, obstruction, basically where the tile is eventually going to
fill with mud and sediment. We’re not going to come out and jet it, but if it gets fully
plugged because of a suck hole, we’ll come out, fix that suck hole, and usually the

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contractor will go back another 10, 15 feet and open that up to try to make sure
that’s clean, and then if we have to replace that small segment, we will. So basically,
at least any kind of obstruction to the tile.
Anything to get to make the water go.
Correct.
Trees.
So if there’s trees growing on top of it, eventually what will happen is if the roots go
down in there, bust it open, the tile will get plugged and the hole will expose. When
that happens, if you see it or anybody sees that, call us, and that’s what’s in the
contractor out. Like I said, we’ll start. Try to remove as many trees as possible while
fixing the suck pool.
Okay, see, that’s why I need…
And that’s what your money goes for, to fix stuff like that, yes.
That’s why I need to… I have no idea where that tile is.
And, okay, right.
So I don’t know whether our trees…
And again, so we’ll give you a picture of this, and hopefully it’s very close. We do not
usually go out and send a contractor out just to locate the tile without a problem to
begin with. We do have a couple contractors with locators, and with this being a…
I’m sure there’s not much cover on this tile with all this low ground. The one I’d
probably use on this contractor does have a locator to where he’ll go in and we’ll
have him locate about 300 feet each way.
while he’s in there and has it opened up. what he does he’ll flag for us and then
chance will go out and shoot it locate it that way we can change our gis we have
locations and with being flagged usually a donor can see it if it’s.
on your property so anyway yeah because i’m thinking that ditch no and that ditch
is on its own separate account too okay but i still don’t know yeah the tile looks like
it’s i mean you.
should i guess if you go out to the stuff here right on the south side 250 where the
ditch ends, sticking out there right at that on the high end of the ditch here right on
your property where the ditch ends yep okay okay you should see a tile sticking out
to the west, If you walk down and look in that ditch, hopefully…
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My guess is it’s probably an old play, so there probably won’t be much sticking out.
Any other questions or comments.
Are you okay with the increase, Nancy.
No, I think that’s quite a bit.
But it’s only $450 a year, right.
Correct. For everyone. For landowners? No. For everyone.
The whole project. The whole project’s in $450 a year. That’s what we’re saying. So if
he’s got to call a contractor, like he said, it cost him $500 just to set his machine on
the property.
Are you doing what she would pay.
Set the machine on the property before you do any work.
Are you doing what she would pay.
That’s the reason why he needs three or four years to be able to pay to fix any cycle
or anything it needs to be.
But if we increase this and nothing’s done in four years or four times, which is
$1,800 roughly, then we won’t collect any money until somebody calls and says, hey,
we need to fix something, and then they’ll go spend some money. So, I mean, it’ll
shut off if nothing is used. Correct.
Okay, so it’s $450 a year.
For the water project. For the whole project. Every landowner, that’s all it pays in is
$450.
It looks like you have about 20 acres, give or take. So for you at… $3.5, $3.62, you’re
looking at a $60, $75 increase per year.
On your taxes.
So your contribution at $450 a year would be about $75.
And this is every year.
Correct, until…
Until it gets four times. So if you take the $480 times four, and then we don’t do any
work, then it’ll shut off, it won’t collect anymore.
Basically, if we get $1,800 more in the account, we shut it off.

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And you stop collecting.
We stop collecting until there’s a problem. And we have to send a contractor out.
Yep.
So is that a… I mean, you’re okay with… I mean, you understand that, and you’re
okay with…
Yeah, I understand it. I think, you know, that was part of the problem was, you
know, when I asked for… information, I had to wait until I came here. I had no idea. I
still don’t.
But the monetary amount, you’re okay with the increase that’ll…
You’re building up funds for it. Yes. You won’t always.
have to pay. Makes sense. Okay. Once that fund, if it does reach that threshold, are
those pre-owners aware, written notes, put out that…
When they get their next tax statement. It will. On the bottom of your tax
statement, you’ll see something called other assessments. It’ll have a three-digit
number and the ditch name. And it’ll say if it collects or not. And I don’t know if it
doesn’t collect, if it comes up and shows zero value, or if it’s just not listed. But that’s
how you will know it’s not collected.
Anybody else.
Okay, so then there is no discussion. I would entertain a motion to increase the
maintenance 580, my stellar tile arm number 2 from $1.38 to $5. Is there a benefit
of that motion? I’ll second it. Any other questions? All in favor? The motion carries 3-
0. Okay, I’m going to entertain a motion to close the 580. So moved. All in favor? The
motion carries 3-0.
Thank you for your input. Yes, 938, and I’ll open up this 583. Mike Sol Mahoney to
raise the maintenance from $1.25 to $3.00, a benefited acre.
The Mike Sol Mahoney is an open ditch and. It’s exactly the same thing. Just need
funds for it in case something happens. You can see through here it goes through
heavily treed areas. The problem is going to be is if we ever have to come in here
and clean this or do any kind of work on it because this tile here cannot release
because it’s backed up through here, we’re in the same boat. Low on funds to get in
there and do it. So, again, I’m proposing for this $1.25 to $3, $1.75 increase.
Do we have any written objections on it.
It says no written objections. Is anybody here to speak on that.
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Okay. I’m hearing no written objections. Is there anybody here to speak? I would
entertain a motion to increase the 583 maintenance from $1.25 to $3. I second. All
in favor? Aye. The motion carries 3-0. I entertain a motion to close the 583. So
moved. All in favor? The motion carries 3-0. All right. Back to you.
Okay, next up. Do you want to go ahead and talk about Town Lake? Town Lake, yes.
I imagine we’re all aware of what there was on Lake last year. Scientifically, it was
based on lowered oxygen in the water. We have water, rainfall, and high water. I had
previously done some study work on ditched drains in Town Lake,
and the level of ditch is comparable to high phosphate. Most of it I see really
farmed, fertilized, but because of the accumulation through the years, those
nutrients are in the soil. Looking at it, I’m going to do a lot to do a couple in that
ditch itself.
The whole bag of stormwater to run off with an abundance of nutrients getting
pushed out of it. We’re trying to afford a bulkhead, the culverts, 225 south, and also
Towns Lake Road upstream. I came up with an idea of what’s called a culvert cup.
Basically a pipe climb, foot size, both draining those drainage culverts across the
road, they’re five foot high. So I ran some numbers for what supplier that supplies
for them.
What did you say it was called.
A coupler.
Coupling.
It’s a coupler.
Basically they’re a round piece of culvert tile, they’re about two foot long, and
they’re used when they have to go further, or they’re culverts, 20 foot lengths I
guess is the standard. And I ran it by the supplier, and he goes, yeah, I think you
should talk to John here.
Right there.
Oh, there you are. And I don’t think I should talk to you, you might have done
something about raising that level of that. It was suggested to limit this balkan that
would pull the water back to be no more than 10 to 2 foot high. In other words, not
to restrict, but there’s a tremendous rainstorm coming through that we wouldn’t
pull the water back.
It’s called a conspirocomity. So, what I understand right now, the pricing on doing
something. Last year’s supplier was about $500 for the two couplers. There would
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They don’t come out watertight. I think I can accomplish that. I think I have an issue.
I also believe that I can get the volunteer help to put these in. I sent over a couple
pictures. Yep. All the time. So that’s 225 South, Calvert, in South. It’s a very deep
gully. You’ve got to guesstimate 12 to 15 feet from the top of that drain.
Two. Great. And a rope. And this here is a pipe that’s under. Again, two, that’s a five-
foot pipe. I see the grade above it, immediately above it at least. So we wouldn’t
really be intruding on overwrought or… any other thing outside of the ditch as far as
water story i just find out is is there a.
probability or a possibility of some sort of if the work was done voluntarily there’s
no liability, involved with drainage board as far as something than the ordinary
happening to somebody or somebody just grabbed my foot or stepped on my toe
and i don’t feel good about it in other words.
all those i’m still you said you can put a coupler on it yeah it was basically what
you’re.
You’re wanting to put a coupler on the pipe coming under the rim.
Yes.
But what does that do.
Upstream. Well, the coupler, I would have a ball cut built into that coupler at the far
end of the coupler. They’re about two foot long and have a welded plate or
something stricter.
So you’re trying to raise the level of the water on the one side of the rim.
Yes, they’re coming up two feet upstream from each one of those couplers.
Well, the one question I have, I don’t know how much you’re going to raise it, but
what does that do upstream? Is there any lower ground? I mean, we could be in a
higher spot. Does it cause a flood? Does it cause a back up? I mean, it may not do
right here at the road or within a half mile, but we just have to look upstream. And
then if you cut the water off to the lake, are you going to get some lake people
upset.
You can only go by eyesight. A lot of people probably would know much better
about the grade of that rock or ditch.
Where’s Town Road? Can you bring the ditch? We’ve got concerns with that.
So where do we cross? Right here is Town Road. So you’ll put it at Town Road, or do
you want to put it at 225? You said both.
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Because, ultimately, you’re wanting to dry up the creek and let the nutrients… You’re
wanting to dry the creek up is what you’re wanting to do.
I believe you see… How did that go up to? The pot. Oh, there you go.
So here’s a plan from 97. Station zero, right here, maybe one second here. Station
four. Okay, starting at the pipe, station four right here at Town Lake Road, I believe.
No, that’s Hell Lake, I’m sorry. Give me one more second. County Road 250. See,
what scares me is if you look.
here, we only got a .05 grade. So bringing it up two feet is gonna be, if we had a
two-tenths of grade, it’d be a little more lenient, because then we know there’s a
good fall that we can kind of build that back, but everything shown here is .05
grade, which is essentially flat.
So this shows 250 south. Is that 225? It is 250. So, again, 500’s elevation. So what
scares me on that is to get two foot back, to get above that, you’re going way far
back. We were at a two-tenths, three-tenths elevation.
That means we’ve got a steep slope. So if we go two foot, it’s going to be a lot less
area to basically flatten that water out.
Oh, sure. I understand. I’m with you on that.
Being flat to hold two foot water back. Yeah, I mean, I’d definitely be very leery on
the Town Lake Road, judging by those pictures you sent here.
Yeah.
Where, you know, come up two foot there, yeah, we’re still going to be below the
pipe here, but I don’t know if there’s any lower spots up along that. Coming back
here, putting it on 250, I believe this county tile is up fairly high.
Yeah.
Before it drops in. And I think there’s some steep banks here on Mike’s ground. I
don’t know, once we get back in here, how, you know, if we’re still at steep banks or
if we’re down to almost a flat bank. If we’re at a flat bank, then again, two foot old
water back is going to flood. So, me personally, I’d be, I would be. very leery doing it
on the town lake road here we have to look at this tile again make sure.
there’s at least two foot of fall and check the banks but it’s one of those things that
if commissioners say yeah you can do it voluntarily if it starts flooding it out it will
have to be removed oh yeah i mean any kind of damage is immediately going to
have to be removed so that’s up to them to decide to go through it or not but.
yeah because then the liability if there’s some damage that’s on us, so some crops
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that ditch l lake so you got a tile here and then a couple small opens here.
So is that the only main ditch that feeds Town Lake.
It’s the only main, but you also have two big tiles, so let’s zoom out here, Brian. So
you’ve got all this acres in here for this, well there you go.
All that feeds it.
There’s your watershed. Wow.
Tremendous for that body of water.
Very tremendous. Now, the other thing to think about, that was just brought to my
attention.
But if you cut that off, what’s that going to do to Town Lake? Is that going to drop it.
Well, eventually, once that two foot water got built up, it’s just going to trickle over
and be your same flow.
Yeah, once it builds up.
Once it builds up. Now, the other thing too, we’re 2,300 feet away from a lake. This
is a little less than a half mile.
oh we can’t touch it well yeah but then i guess i guess with that being said you know
i mean you put that riser on there and you back it up two feet and then and then
the water’s gonna flow over anyway so you’re gonna have the same amount of flow
you do now what’s the point of damming it up you’re still going to get the water i
mean it may take a year i don’t know what i mean maybe six months or you know
what i’m saying but once the water starts back over that again you still.
have water coming into the lake yeah but you have the water i don’t want to stop
the water i have to water at a higher level than before you have that blockage so
sediments can settle the water level is higher presently the water running down
that stream is just sweeping the, bottom and pulling up all that it gives it some time
and then when the right water backs off.
Then you do have water there.
I'm not sure. But to like set, yeah. DNR. Yeah, the DNR.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. They won’t let us touch it.
Because the first, how close to.
A half mile.

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A fourth and a half mile.
I wasn’t aware, so. Yeah. All caught. Yeah, so. I asked them and then they would.
You would have to go through DNR yourself. And at that point, if they said the okay
to you, it would be up to commissioners to say yay or nay.
Because it would be the ones we flooded.
Yes. So, again, a couple things we have to do before we get there is see this tile,
how much fall it has. If it’s under, if it’s over two foot, okay. And then check the
banks all the way out. I know, I know this right here, this area, there are no banks
on this ditch. I mean it’s it’s low ground and so at a 500’s grade that could back that
up and if this gets.
backed up this tile is laying on the bottom again where you gotta you essentially
have a foot bank, so if that backs that tile up then we gotta say no right away. I
understand. Well this is, we’re up here. Oh. Up here is where you’re at but I’m saying
is on a 500’s fall. Why? We can go through that later. Yeah we gotta do the math and
see but if there’s any kind of peak because we already we already have trouble with
this tile so if there’s any kind of even.
a partial the water comes up four inches to restrict this even more my vote number
opinion would be no because we go on this tile every other year to fix. Yeah, so
right here is 250, 225, okay, is this 225.
No, after 225, the next crossing county road is 300 south.
So what’s this road right here.
South of 225.
What’s this road where Town Lake comes onto? That’s 225.
225, I said that.
Yeah, that’s 225.
Yeah, okay.
So again, before even, I guess, my pick in this conversation, you need to go to DNR.
Mm-hm. Okay, you’re gonna work with me then, and DNR says, hey, we gotta find
out this.
Well, if they say yes, then we’ll go out and do our research and see if- if it comes up
two feet will it slow restrict at all any type of these two tiles or come out of the
banks and they might so I don’t know but I know we need.

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we need to start there yep so these are previous ones previous ones like say.
what do you hear from them let us know we’ll go from there oh yeah okay all, right
appreciate it John you here just for a good show or what’s a good thing.
you’re here.
Okay, then we have open bids for the 657 E.B. Collins.
Here’s the bids, and they’re older. You want this one.
No. Okay, so we have, they’re here for $300. Okay, we have an interim excavating
for $8,200. Okay.
Can you pull up? Overmire excavating.
9,450, right.
Yeah, yep, yep, we’re good, appreciate it.
I'm gonna go get it then. Go.
This is the Klesiak, $5,184. 5184. 5184, field excavating.
Okay, I’ll get her, $9,800, excavating here, $9,889, 9-8-8-9.
That’s a palindrome for all you guys.
That’s a what.
A palindrome, the same way a quarterback would do it. See, there’s your education
for the day. That’s right, you’ve got to dub it out for that, you guys. We get
championships. That’s good. It’s a low blow, man.
8,950, 8-9-5-0. We have a low bid for the Police Act of 5,100.
You good with the Police Act? Any kind of problems? Nope. I wonder why there’s so
much price difference, but whatever. I’ll make a motion to accept the Police Act to
be bid on that 657. Seconded.
Any other questions on it? Concerns? All in favor? Okay, there’s 3-0. Convicted. I
believe there’s five of them are closed. Okay. So then we have, let’s set some
hearings for February 9th. We have the 586 Elijah Miller open in a rate of
maintenance from $0.62 to $2.50 at 10 a.m.
The 587 Elijah Miller open arm number one in a rate of maintenance from $2 to $4
at 9.15. And the 589 Elijah Miller main open arm in a rate of maintenance from
$1.25 to $3 at 9.20. Anything else on those, Seth.

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No, the meetings are all side-by-side, kind of all feeding the same system, which is
why we’re going to do them all at once.
So do you guys have a chance to look the minutes over? Any questions, concerns,
comments? I’ll entertain a motion to approve. Motion made. Second. All in favor?
You guys look at the claims over, questions, concerns? Mr. Perry, Mr. Perry’s 3-0.
Okay, we have legal consultant, $833.33.
We have the engineering fees for the following invoices, $13,580.25. 7283 for
$5,026. The number 7581 for $1,758. The number 7984 for $2,500. $8,072 for
$13,234 for a total of $49,000.
$45,939 for our QA debit. QAW for environmental permitting fees of $1,500. Ingram
Excavating for the $7.94 James Hines Open for $500. Timber Valley Tile Repair and
Broken Tile on the $5.68 King for $1,518.29.
Ingram Excavating for the $8.64 Kyron Walsh Arm No. 2 Bed Job at 85% down at
$78,223.10. In the Rochester Sentinel for advertising for the $8.48 for $17.20. 557
Nathan Hensley for $17.20. The 563 John Jackson Open for $17.20. 547 William for
$17.20, for $68.80, for a total of $130,583.02.
You got minutes from last week to do that.
They already did it. We should be done.
Anything else.
That’s all I got. Old business? I don’t know. Okay.
Oh, thank you, dear. Yeah, I’ll cut that.
Okay. We have an engagement letter for an attorney from Holly Shorter Piper. Same
amount as last year, $10,000. We have a motion to approve. Any questions,
concerns? All in favor? Carries 3-0. Anything else, Lane? Anything else?
No. So? Good. Good to go. I entertain a motion to adjourn. So moved.
Second. Whoever.
All in favor, motion carries 3-0. All right.